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On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 05:50 PM,

wrote:

 

> Message: 5

> Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:33:39 -0500

> Sant & Brown <santbrown

> Re: They Want Us On Pills For Life

>

>>

>> Well, some have restrictions against meat of all kinds, or of mixing

>> certain things in certain ways, akin to Kosher law.

>

> Yeah, that struck me after I sent off my email. Didn't correct myself,

> though, since I have too little knowledge of Islam to be usefully

> informative :=(

>

>> All such rules being control freaks with OCD making up crap to force

>> others to live as they wish, of course.

>

> Oh of course *lol* Unlike the rest of us, of course, who never try to

> convince anyone to do as we do! ;=)

 

Well, see, most of us don't found religions and claim that God speaks

through us and seek to control the world, right? So I'd say most of us

don't do this. Persuasion is one thing, threatening people with eternal

damnation for accidentally eating a bacon molecule is ludicrous control

freakism gone wild.

>

>> Yes, although they are often absurdly extreme in their behavior, too,

>> such

>> as not moving for fear of crushing invisible beings, (microbes), etc.

>

> Well, I can't say I am familiar with Jainism, but I have a high regard

> for their philosophy of ahimsa, even if I would myself find the practice

> (at least of the ultra-devout, as you describe) a bit of a muchness.

 

Yes, precisely. There are famous / notorious Jains who literally didn't

move for decades.

>

> I am myself a total non-believer. That does not, however, mean that I

> think that corporations should not be respectful of their customers and

> should therefore be exempted from being honest about ingredients which

> would offend religious dietary laws. It is the deception which is the

> problem.

 

Exactly so. All we want is informed truthfully.

 

> As a vegetarian and pacifist who thinks all life should be

> respected equally, I also deplore such deception. I won't go to hell for

> eating one of Micky D's beefy fries, but I won't, knowing that they are

> 'beefy', go to the hell of Micky D's either ;=)

 

Well-turned.

>

>> The doctors are paid well by the pharmaceutical companies to diagnose

>> things in certain ways so the flow of pills continues, too. I'm sure

>> they

>> have a backup plan for the Mad Cow pandemic.

>

> Oh I *do* so wish I could tell you that was nonsense! Siggggghhhhh.

 

You've seen the Zocor and Prilosec and other drug clocks on their walls,

too, hm? lol

 

> Of

> course, you don't mean a *cure* or *preventive*, because that would

> generate less cash than 'treatment'. . .

 

Exactly. As Linus Pauling, the Nobel Laureate, said ages ago.

>

> And a happy Monday morning to you too ;=) We have a storm outside and I

> suspect the barometric pressure is affecting my mood.

 

that or mind control from Planet X

>

> Best,

> Pat

> --

>

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instructive books. To be cultivated, one must read slowly and with a

lingering appreciation the comparatively few books that have been written

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Message from Planet X: you guys have to stop agreeing with each other

like this - it's spoiling our fun at tuning into your thoughts!

 

What can I say?

 

Best,

Pat

 

> On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 05:50 PM,

> wrote:

>

> > Message: 5

> > Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:33:39 -0500

> > Sant & Brown <santbrown

> > Re: They Want Us On Pills For Life

> >

> >>

> >> Well, some have restrictions against meat of all kinds, or of mixing

> >> certain things in certain ways, akin to Kosher law.

> >

> > Yeah, that struck me after I sent off my email. Didn't correct myself,

> > though, since I have too little knowledge of Islam to be usefully

> > informative :=(

> >

> >> All such rules being control freaks with OCD making up crap to force

> >> others to live as they wish, of course.

> >

> > Oh of course *lol* Unlike the rest of us, of course, who never try to

> > convince anyone to do as we do! ;=)

>

> Well, see, most of us don't found religions and claim that God speaks

> through us and seek to control the world, right? So I'd say most of us

> don't do this. Persuasion is one thing, threatening people with eternal

> damnation for accidentally eating a bacon molecule is ludicrous control

> freakism gone wild.

> >

> >> Yes, although they are often absurdly extreme in their behavior, too,

> >> such

> >> as not moving for fear of crushing invisible beings, (microbes), etc.

> >

> > Well, I can't say I am familiar with Jainism, but I have a high regard

> > for their philosophy of ahimsa, even if I would myself find the practice

> > (at least of the ultra-devout, as you describe) a bit of a muchness.

>

> Yes, precisely. There are famous / notorious Jains who literally didn't

> move for decades.

> >

> > I am myself a total non-believer. That does not, however, mean that I

> > think that corporations should not be respectful of their customers and

> > should therefore be exempted from being honest about ingredients which

> > would offend religious dietary laws. It is the deception which is the

> > problem.

>

> Exactly so. All we want is informed truthfully.

>

> > As a vegetarian and pacifist who thinks all life should be

> > respected equally, I also deplore such deception. I won't go to hell for

> > eating one of Micky D's beefy fries, but I won't, knowing that they are

> > 'beefy', go to the hell of Micky D's either ;=)

>

> Well-turned.

> >

> >> The doctors are paid well by the pharmaceutical companies to diagnose

> >> things in certain ways so the flow of pills continues, too. I'm sure

> >> they

> >> have a backup plan for the Mad Cow pandemic.

> >

> > Oh I *do* so wish I could tell you that was nonsense! Siggggghhhhh.

>

> You've seen the Zocor and Prilosec and other drug clocks on their walls,

> too, hm? lol

>

> > Of

> > course, you don't mean a *cure* or *preventive*, because that would

> > generate less cash than 'treatment'. . .

>

> Exactly. As Linus Pauling, the Nobel Laureate, said ages ago.

> >

> > And a happy Monday morning to you too ;=) We have a storm outside and I

> > suspect the barometric pressure is affecting my mood.

>

> that or mind control from Planet X

> >

 

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