daveo

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, " daveo " <daveo@m...> wrote:

 

> And that response was so unlike you. You are the

very last one I expected> to assume such a dismissive

attitude. In essence, you did exactly what you

> accused me of doing.

 

 

It was hardly dismissive nor was it unlike me in the least.

It was an honest to goodness zen whack you richly deserved

in my opinion. I wasn't speaking ill of you behind your back

or infront of your face to another person in a cyber high-five.

I was posting directly TO you. Quite clear, quite direct and

even polite... a small finger waving tsk and an applicable

quote to the situation as I saw it. You not being able to

accept it or see it for what it was speaks volumes.

 

 

> If that thread held interest for you and you failed to speak

up, then sadly> you received exactly what you asked for.

Why did you not post a response?

 

 

Excuse me for being busy. Excuse me for sitting back and

reading the post and hoping that the questions asked

were enough and waiting to see what info unfolded.

My mistake.

 

 

> I am not alone in viewing Gene's interaction with the

group as a big pain> the tush, in spite of the fact that

some of what he writes is quite> entertaining and cute.

 

 

Oh and here is where you name names to me? Are you

getting emails offlist from people complaining about

Gene? Are you getting offlist emails from members

asking you to " please speak to PT, she really needs

your input on how to run the successful and growing list,

Daveo " ? I think not, and if you are then bring it on., I would

love to read them; send them to me.

I'm not getting any of them from people.... I wonder why?

I encourage everyone to please email me offlist with

concerns or problems they see. I feel I present myself as

fair and evenhanded. If I don't then I welcome the critique.

I know I am not perfect.

 

 

 

I remember more than once that you and I exchanged

> off-list emails about " the situation. " I didn't agree

with your kid's> gloves approach then and agree even

less today b/c his " poor attitude " > continues to degrade

the quality of this fine group of veggies.

 

 

Yes, we disagreed; still do.

Kidgloves? Please.

 

 

> Regarding GI foods that spike glucose

levels and which ones don't, such info

> is easily available in " The Glucose Revolution "

by Jennie Brand-Miller. The> primary value of this info

is for those suffering with type II diabetics.

> For those unaffected, it explains some of the

uncomfortable feelings we get

> from certain foods, but the impact health wise is far

less significant.

 

 

Sounds like a good read, thanks.

 

 

> I appreciate the honesty. I doubt if anyone really wanted

to see hundreds,> maybe thousands of Medline references

posted in an email. So, that can> hardly be the issue.

 

 

Then why not state that? Then you could offer to email them

to any interested party offlist so as not to clutter the board.

A few lines of clickable links in a post are not going to overtax

the board..hundreds? thousands? Well that might. *lol*

 

 

 

> I don't know about you, but I live in a world where reasonable

dialogue and> fair-minded exchanges are commonplace.

 

 

Please stop with the condescending tone.

We BOTH live on planet earth...

same world with just as many rude folks wandering

around. Unless you live in some bubble, which I doubt.

 

 

> If that's all you saw, then perhaps you ought to ask

Shawn for a second> opinion (which he had the courage to

state).

 

I saw no such courageous display. Or rather, I didn't see

" courage " displayed in any of that.

 

 

My only criticism of you as moderator is that you

> continue to tolerate such behavior as if it's okay.

Speaking only for> myself, I say that it's NOT okay!

 

 

You are free to leave the list.

 

 

> Here's a news flash, PT! This is not about personalities.

 

 

News flash? You need to watch the tone you take with me.

No kidding it isn't about personalities, that is exactly what

I said to you.

 

 

It's about> respecting others in this group, and it's about

owning your own words. When> you finally make this your

standard.....

 

 

My standards?! I do show respect to everyone on this list.

I do own my own words...whatever THAT means; I am

guessing you are still annoyed b/c I like quotes or

words of wisdom from people who have said thoughts

I agree with?

 

 

 

> My words touch many on this planet, raise their eyes

in pride, help some to> stand taller, to seek more for

themselves, and to find that better part of

> who they are. I apologize for nothing and this is

especially true when I> lock horns with someone who,

through their own pain, misfortunte, upset, and

> negativity, would suck the very life out of another.

> > I seek peace, friendship, and family. When I have that,

I put 100% into> making things work for everyone's benefit.

When that's threatened, I do> whatever it takes to resolve

the issues. My successes are many and live all

> around me.

 

 

Your ego is amazing!

 

 

> Unfortunately, not all issues have a resolution b/c some

people fail to> learn the necessity for compromise not only

with other but within> themselves. Need I say more?

 

 

Please don't. *lol*

 

 

> Thanks, I stand corrected, and except for a couple of bumps,

it has indeed> been a grand year. You deserve much praise

for making this happen. > > daveo

 

 

Guess what? I don't do it for any praise or so I can pontificate

about myself or " many successes that live all around me " .

I don't make it happen. I attribute it to the people who are

members. To the good people that are invited here by me that

share about their cooking, their lives as vegetarians,

and their wisdom. This list isn't about me, it is about all of us.

 

 

~ PT ~

 

In the realm of Nature there is nothing purposeless,

trivial, or unnecessary.

~ Maimonides