MESSY CHAT

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this seems quite messy, and Ibizkus would like to be cool with everybody, I think it's great 2 do what U want; and dress too but I think possibly leather wouldn't be cool... for the rest let's be all polite; it seems that we all cary traumas from the past and all have some kind of magic-alergic-word...one is alergic to faith, the other one 2 be told to do this or that, the other 2 smolers, me 2 drinkers(heavy drinkers) what else ???????????are we not grown up yet?

 

>"nikki_mackovitch"

> > > nail me to the cross or >Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:48:20 -0000 > >kick me off this group!!! > >What the heck is going on??? I join this "support" group because I am >a new vegan and am reaching out fer help. I find it. (thank you) and >then I disappear fer a day and the group erupts! > >I find I am told how to dress. How to dress? Who the heck says I >can't wear what? Ya gonna disown a boy fer wearing a skirt? How bout >a girl fer wearing no bra? What era are we in that I cannot be myself? > >I find I cannot have a drink! Hell, if I'm responsible, I can have a >drink! How many people die in car accidents everyday? Anyone can get >a license, anyone can have a child, anyone can work heavy >machinery!!!! But it takes a responsible person to do any of those >things right! > >Now you can really crucify me. I smoke! There! I said it. But, should >you ban me from society for it? Or should you reach out a hand and >try to help me better the world along with you. I'm sorry some of you >do not find smoking an addiction. Unfortunately it is. I am currently >quitting and damn proud of that fact. But do I expect you to >understand, my new-found "support" group. Me guesses not. > >What about the heroin addict? Shall we leave him on the curb? Let the >youth die? Hmmmm... maybe we could try to help him! > >How many of you were looked at funny fer becoming a vegan? I still >am. Do I care what they think? No, because I am happy being one. I >feel better. Healthier! Happier! More energetic and I know I heping >to save innoncent animals, this planet and myself!!!!!! So why do I >care what others think on that? Which leads to why do I care what >they think about what I am wearing???? > >Present ourselves properly? You mean we should change and conform to >society in the way we dress? Why is this? Please someone explain this >to me? Why can't I be me? Now I must live a lie? How can I expect >others to respect what I say if i cannot respect myself? > >As for smoking on the marches, I will agree with that only because of >the unfairness to non-smokers and chance of possibly polluting the >ground with butts. As a smoker (who reminds you she is quitting), I >try always to be courteous to non-smokers. I will not force my nasty >habit upon you. BUT PLEASE do not force your ideals on me. Yes, >please, give me your opinions. Show me the good and bad points. open >my eyes into what you believe, but allow me as a person to make my >own judgements. AND DO NOT jusge me when you have no idea of who I am. > >I am sorry fer this, but I just read 30 good rant and rave emails in >which people were stating they were right and evryone else was wrong. >Must be nice to always be so right. Must be nice to close off others >and just live in yer own ideals. Me, I personally like to hear all >sides and explore every avenue. Me, I like to learn. No matter what >the end reult may be. > >So, if ya want me to leave because I don't agree please say so. But >if I stay, please affirm my belief that this is indeed a "support" >group created where we can all come together to share and learn from >one another. > >Not degrade and demean. Fer that to me makes us no better than the >meat eaters who close their eyes and ears to our pleas. > >I have a big problem with some things some of you said and judgements >made. But, you are definately entitled to yer own opinions. And as >some of you have personal problems with the smoke, I can understand >them. But why slaughter and entire society fer a handful of mistakes. >Why not try to help that society become a better one? > >So ends my rant and my rave. I apologize fer any offense inflicted, >but could not sit idly by and watch the "violent" behavior. Instead >of help, I saw attack. This group brought me into utter disbelief and >horror this morning! Maybe just me I don't know. But I thought when I >became a vegan I was joining a group of people who wanted to help >other species including our own. Today's reading scared the beejezes >on me as to what we are really about. I wonder if we are one of those >society's who want to simply sit by and judge others instead of >helping them. Gee, like barbarians. > >nikki

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