Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 B " H I guess as an Orthodox Jew, it's very hard for me to adopt that perspective. As a matter of fact, I've loosened up over the 25 years I've been a vegetarian and the 13 years I've been vegan. There are so few Orthodox Jews to begin with (and most Orthodox Jews have moved quite a bit to the right of me religiously -- I'm VERY Modern Orthodox) and SOOO few vegetarian Orthodox Jews and almost no other vegan Orthodox Jews..... I also find that I have more influence over people by being open minded and accepting than I would by being strident.... Debbie I went out for that dinner last night with my vegan friend and her three vegetarian friends. This is the first time I have eaten out with vegetarians since switching from being a vegetarian to a vegan myself! I just hadn't appreciated what a big leap I had made to being a vegan. I had absolutely nothing in common with those vegetarians last night and I can hardly believe I'm saying this! The food they were eating - tonnes of dairy, chocolate etc led onto conversations onto these foods which they were drooling about and I felt we were poles apart. To me they were just like meat eaters because they glorified dairy products so much. Maybe Lesley is right, the only time you truly feel comfortable is around vegans. I did find myself spending most of the evening talking to my vegan friend as not only were our dinners similar, but so were our conversations. Maybe this is an unhealthy attitude to adopt but its just how I felt. :-) Janey x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Yes, I agree Debbie. But I wasn't saying I wasn't open minded, I just saying what a big leap switching from vegetarianism to veganism is. I too find I can be influential if I adopt a *positive* attitude around meaties and veggies and I always chat about being a vegan especially when at functions I attend. I was a vegetarian for nine years and I've been a vegan since about January of 2001 (not long!) but in that short space of time I have not only changed my eating habits but also the way I think about things. For me being vegetarian is not the perfect diet I once thought it to be and like I said earlier, I just didn't appreciate how big a leap I had made becoming vegan. But I would much rather socialise with veggies than meaties. No stink of meat or fish at my table - that was a first!!!!!! Do you find it difficult with there being so few Orthodox Jews??? That's an interesting point you raise. Love, Janey x - " compugraphd " <compugraphd Sunday, July 21, 2002 6:19 AM veggie dinner > B " H > > I guess as an Orthodox Jew, it's very hard for me to adopt that > perspective. As a matter of fact, I've loosened up over the 25 years > I've been a vegetarian and the 13 years I've been vegan. There are so > few Orthodox Jews to begin with (and most Orthodox Jews have moved > quite a bit to the right of me religiously -- I'm VERY Modern > Orthodox) and SOOO few vegetarian Orthodox Jews and almost no other > vegan Orthodox Jews..... > > I also find that I have more influence over people by being open > minded and accepting than I would by being strident.... > > Debbie > > > > I went out for that dinner last night with my vegan friend and her > three vegetarian friends. This is the first time I have eaten out > with vegetarians since switching from being a vegetarian to a vegan > myself! I just hadn't appreciated what a big leap I had made to > being a vegan. I had absolutely nothing in common with those > vegetarians last night and I can hardly believe I'm saying this! The > food they were eating - tonnes of dairy, chocolate etc led onto > conversations onto these foods which they were drooling about and I > felt we were poles apart. To me they were just like meat eaters > because they glorified dairy products so much. Maybe Lesley is > right, the only time you truly feel comfortable is around vegans. I > did find myself spending most of the evening talking to my vegan > friend as not only were our dinners similar, but so were our > conversations. > > Maybe this is an unhealthy attitude to adopt but its just how I > felt. :-) > > Janey > x > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Debbie I so agree with this. If you are strident you offend people and then they will never listen. Jo > I also find that I have more influence over people by being open > minded and accepting than I would by being strident.... > > Debbie > > > > I went out for that dinner last night with my vegan friend and her > three vegetarian friends. This is the first time I have eaten out > with vegetarians since switching from being a vegetarian to a vegan > myself! I just hadn't appreciated what a big leap I had made to > being a vegan. I had absolutely nothing in common with those > vegetarians last night and I can hardly believe I'm saying this! The > food they were eating - tonnes of dairy, chocolate etc led onto > conversations onto these foods which they were drooling about and I > felt we were poles apart. To me they were just like meat eaters > because they glorified dairy products so much. Maybe Lesley is > right, the only time you truly feel comfortable is around vegans. I > did find myself spending most of the evening talking to my vegan > friend as not only were our dinners similar, but so were our > conversations. > > Maybe this is an unhealthy attitude to adopt but its just how I > felt. :-) > > Janey > x > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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