Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Hi, just saw the topic... one of my favorites lots of the studies finding harms of soy are associated with soy, but not neccessary. Like alzheimers from soy processed with aluminum, phytic acids, isolated soy protein without the rest of the bean, ect Also GM soybeans, found with unknown DNA, less phytoestrogens, less choline, more trypsin inhibitor, and *never tested in human feeding studies to determine safety*, might be wise to avoid half-way down... http://www.geocities.com/holist2002/PlantFoodNutrition.html (and FDA text at the top) half-way down this site has a list of harms with soy- only read themif you're able to take the time to read carefully and critique them http://www.ecologos.org/ttdd.htm and scientists in the FDA urge caution on soy http://abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_000609_soyfdaletter_feature.html In this economic competitive atmosphere, it's difficult to know whether cautions are sincere or bought ?? The meat industry does fear soy, but that doesn't mean all, or some, of the harms are or aren't true ?? Jon - " Heartwork " <Heartwork Saturday, July 20, 2002 2:47 PM Re: Soy is it too much? Hi Eric I notice you are American. Do you find it difficult to get non-GM soya. I believe that the research referred to was done on subjects consuming GM soya. >· Not much is being done in the U.S. to make parents aware of the thyroid-related dangers of soy formulas, or to alert the >public that heavy soy consumption may be a danger to thyroid function From other lists I have been on over the last three years I would say that this dubious information is well propaganda'd in the US. I also note that it states that eating 'huge amounts of soya' is bad for your thyroid. Personally I don't think it is a good idea for anybody to eat huge amounts of any one item, and if they do they are asking for trouble. Why would eating soya be any more of a problem for vegans than for meat-eaters. >· According to the Soy Online Service, for infants, any soy is too much. For adults, just 30 mg of soy isoflavones per day is the >amount found to have a negative impact on thyroid function That should be okay then because you need only 25mg of isoflavones to get the benefits required, so if you do have a pre-existing tendency to thyroid problems then you can still eat some soya without depressing thyroid function. If you are worried about isoflavones then you should be aware that they are in other foods as well, not just soya. I would like to know the history and connections of the people stating the case against soya. I prefer to go on the evidence of the population studies of the countries where soya is the main protein. This proves the benefits of soya, but there seems to be no evidence of the thyroid suppression. Finally, you do not need to eat soya to be vegan. There are plenty of other protein foods - nuts and seeds, beans and lentils, rice etc.etc. Also soya is added to lots of non-vegan foodstuffs and ready-meals, so if it were true it would be just as likely to affect meat-eaters who eat a lot of ready meals etc. Jo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 10/07/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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