Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 Hi Sandra, About the mood swings, Have you thought of a totally different approach? Try putting on some very quiet music and Think to yourself when these moments of what I call desperation hit. Think to yourself, " Is this life or death or is it one of these times that just are annoying to me? " Then if it IS life or death then one of course must absolutely deal with it. BUT if it isn't; deal with it when you are in a more calmed atmostphere and state of mind. Then it won't be so exaspersting to you. Sinserely, Rebecca oogroups.com wrote: Check out these affiliated vegan lists ~ http://www.Christian-Vegan-Cooking http://www.VintageVeganTea http://www.VeganMenus4HealthyLiving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Sandra I just thought you might like to know what happened to me lately. I have just recovered from a serious medical problem, which happened because a mistake was made during minor surgery. That's a long story that I won't go into. In order to regain my health, I read everything I could find about being on a vegan diet and finally decided that maybe I would benefit by fish oil because all of the information I found was confusing. The better brands of fish oil should be free of toxins. Flax seed oil doesn't have one kind of fatty acid that we need. It is probably available in vegetarian sources such as walnuts, primrose oil, etc. but I thought the information was too confusing. I am on my way to a full recovery. I don't know if I needed the fish oil or not. I plan to give it up in a few months unless I develop further problems. One article I read said that we are all different and that some people require fish in their diet, but others do not. To me good health is a blessing and I'm willing to do what it takes to have my health. The other thing I worry about is osteoporosis. So far haven't been able to find anything that suggests a vegan diet causes causes osteoporosis. Suzanne Message: 2 Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:20:21 -0400 " Sandra Mort " <sandra.mort Re:The Scoop on Salmon You know what? I am SO sick of this. *tossing temper tantrum* I can't win!!! I just can't win!!! I've been using fish and fish oils to control my mood disorder for a few months and it works better than any of the rx meds I've ever taken. But there's all the crap in the fish to worry about, not to mention that my daughter is starting to ask when I'm going to stop with this experiment and go back to being vegetarian. And the guilt doesn't make it any easier to choke down the stuff! I just can't win Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 >In order to regain my health, I read everything I could find about being on >a vegan diet and finally decided that maybe I would benefit by fish oil >because all of the information I found was confusing. The better brands of >fish oil should be free of toxins. Yes, and I'm taking some of that, too, but if I take too many pills, I start gagging. The only way I've been able to get enough is to do part capsules (also not vegetarian) *and* fish. > I plan to give it up in a few months unless I develop further > problems. At the point, it looks like I'm going to be on this for life. My question now is whether I should make my kids eat it or not Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Hello Rebecca - If only it was that simple... Bipolar disorder is so far beyond regular or situational 'mood swings' that the sensible approach you suggested is unfortunately, impossible. regards snow ---- Rebecca Haddock <nana_haddock60 09/01/03 01:15 PM Re: Digest Number 695 > > Hi Sandra, About the mood swings, Have you thought of a totally different approach? Try putting on some very quiet music and Think to yourself when these moments of what I call desperation hit. Think to yourself, " Is this life or death or is it one of these times that just are annoying to me? " Then if it IS life or death then one of course must absolutely deal with it. BUT if it isn't; deal with it when you are in a more calmed atmostphere and state of mind. Then it won't be so exaspersting to you. Sinserely, Rebecca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Snowbythesea at Snowbythesea wrote: > Hello Rebecca - > > If only it was that simple... Bipolar disorder is so far beyond regular or > situational 'mood swings' that the sensible approach you suggested is > unfortunately, impossible. I think a lot of people don't realize how serious mental disorders can be and that their effects are far more far-reaching than mental. The physical has *so much* effect on how our brains function. My husband suffers from generalized anxiety disorder and is prone to depression. It's only recently that we've discovered his diet has a direct impact on his brain--specifically, he has some type of hypoglycemia and one of his major symptoms is anxiety attacks. Sadly, we've discovered that he *cannot* manage this on a soy-free (I'm severely allergic) vegetarian diet. It's truly impossible. For whatever reasons, he needs flesh to manage his blood sugar. He doesn't like to be limited like this, but we both recognize that keeping his health and mind stable are of utmost importance. I'm still vegetarian. Our shared meals are vegetarian (and often vegan, but I'm not vegan). He chooses and cooks his own meat. Oddly enough, for other metabolic reasons, I *cannot* consume meat without severe physical consequences. Fortunately, I don't *mind* being vegetarian and prefer to be this way. Some folks might choose to be less healthy, but I'm disabled and cannot work and we rely on his income. He chooses to follow the healthiest path *for him* and tries his best to deal with the ethical dilemmas. I don't fault *anyone* for choosing the healthiest path for themselves. Indeed, I think it takes a strong person to realize that their diet is having a negative impact on their health and to make the change which will benefit them the most. If that means giving up meat or giving up veganism, it's still a hard choice to make. ygg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 >My husband suffers from >generalized anxiety disorder and is prone to depression. It's only recently >that we've discovered his diet has a direct impact on his >brain--specifically, he has some type of hypoglycemia and one of his major >symptoms is anxiety attacks. That's another thing. I've never been DIAGNOSED hypoglycemic (no one was willing to test), but I've got all the symptoms). Since starting to eat the fish, I've noticed that I'm much more able to keep my moods on an even keel. That's one of the reasons that I'm hesitating to exclusively use the supplements. I don't think that it's necessarily enough of a reason to stop being vegetarian, but let's be realistic... salmon are still dying to go into the capsules, too. If eating fish, rather than caps, deals with two of my problems in stead of just one, it seems foolish to only take the caps in order to feel less guilty by pretending I'm not killing fish. But I'm having an awful lot of trouble with deciding what to do about my kids. The four year old knows fish is off limits, the baby doesn't know one way or another. I've got mental illness issues on *BOTH* sides of their family to deal with, and to be honest, I don't think I'm doing the right thing by raising them veg if it's helping me this much. Why should I wait until they're a wreck when I can be preventing the illness to start with? But I don't know what to do. It's making me miserable. Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 I am a member of a mental health clubhouse. Apparently wheat gluten sets of Schizoprenia episodes. I was suspicious, but I've had it confirmed from a psychiatrist. My step son had chronic hypoglycemia and attention deficit that was directly related to his severe food allergies. Food isn't just nutrition, it's medicine. Donni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 >Food isn't just nutrition, it's medicine. Or poison if your body is allergy or intolerant of it. My children are all severely allergic to gluten and dairy products and part of their symptoms were ADHD-like as well. My husband is also severely allergic to dairy and gluten but refuses to give them up. Right now he is lying in bed moaning because he ate pizza for lunch with someone. It was a buffet and he took advantage of it too - smile. He's a grown-up though, and now he has to head out to fire practise (he's a volunteer fireman) and he feels the pits. Nothing I could say would have dissuaded him either. And the doctor says he doesn't think Keith has a problem with impulse control - lol. BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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