Digest Number 1026

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In a message dated 11/10/04 3:26:09 AM,

writes:

 

 

> i still think it is funny and cute that your flirtation

> with the handsome farmer's market guy landed

> you with a whole bunch. You go girl! So what kind

> of persimmon did you buy? My quest for knowledge

> lead me to one recipe on FoodTV's site for a poached

> persimmon...that sounded pretty easy and delicious.

>

 

i believe the variety i got was the japanese persimmon. post the poached

persimmon recipe-- sounds interesting!

 

the persimmon guy turns out to be a graduate of the cordon bleu school, so i

challenged him to help me find a way to make vegan creme brulee. gave him my

phone number for when he figures it out. so i'll let you know if i get

a good recipe (and if i get a date... hmm... lol)

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

So far, I've been lucky with my family. We've had incidents where they

insist that my (not-yet-even-2, so she sure as heck isn't making any

dietary/ethical/moral decisions for herself yet) daughter wants to eat

meat, but I smack them with the clue-by-four until they back off. I

hope you don't mind if I fume a bit here.

 

A) She did this at a Hanukkah party. Am I correct in assuming she's

Jewish? How would she feel if someone fed her a bacon cheeseburger

because they didn't think her dietary restrictions were important,

since they were " just " religious and not medical?

 

B) I really, really don't understand how adults can use the arguments

" everyone's doing it " and " she wants to " in justifying crossing

parental authority. So if your daughter wants to go shoot heroin with

her friends, that's ok because they're doing it and she wants to? GAH.

My daughter happens to want to eat rocks. But I don't let her, because

*I'm* the parent and that's MY JOB - to keep her away from harmful

things, even if she thinks they sound really fantastic.

 

Family, of course, can be tricky. You don't want to hurt their

feelings, *and* they often think they're perfectly justified in

overstepping your boundaries because of blood. Next time, I'd say

calmly refuse the offending item - don't argue, just refuse. If

pushed, remove your daughter and yourself from the situation as

politely (and firmly) as possible. I've never had to go farther than

saying " we don't eat that " , or sometimes bringing out the " if all her

friends jumped off a cliff, would you tell her that was ok? " line, but

like I said, I've been lucky so far.

 

Good luck. Oh, and after all that venting, I do have to say - don't

let it get to you too much. I was bummed after my beautiful, perfect,

vegetarian daughter ate cat food, but really, I don't think it's

ruined her for life even if it's not what I would have wanted her to

do. You know. As long as she doesn't make a habit out of it.

 

-kt

 

> Message: 10

> Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:31:11 -0500

> " Karyn " <karyn

> my daughter had a real hot dog!!!

>

> I need support from the group that I know will understand the most. Last

> night at my family Hanukkah party, my almost 3 year old had a frank in a

> blanket. We serve meat too (my husband is not veggy) But my daughter has

> never had a morsel of meat. I always explain simply that hamburger and

> hotdogs come from a cow. And she calls herself a " begerian " (so cute) Last

> night my aunt, in front of everyone, said, " all of her cousins want to eat

> it, that's not fair for her, she wants it, just let her have it, and on and

> on. I was so upset b/c she pretty much handed it to Rayna. It was handled so

> wrong. The funny thing is that for my gift from my aunt I got a vegetarian

> cookbook. How ironic. I am so depressed...My husband and I have always said

> she can make the choice. But she's not even 3!!

>

> Karyn

>

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