Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 > > > > Digest Number 748 >26 Jan 2002 09:39:40 -0000 > >contact owner: -owner >Mail list: >Delivered-mailing list >List-Un: - > >no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed >contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list >or anything else. Thank you. >please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > >------ > >There are 3 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. What to Believe????? > " athomemom56 " <barbramcfa > 2. Re: What to Believe????? > Kris <kristc99 > 3. Re: What to Believe????? > Celia Elise <evil_maiden > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 > Sat, 26 Jan 2002 03:50:53 -0000 > " athomemom56 " <barbramcfa >What to Believe????? > >As someone who is trying to become a vegetarian, you know what to >believe. Check this out and tell me what you think. My email is >barbramcfa > >http://chetday.com/vegmyths.htm > >Barbra > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 > Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:23:05 -0800 (PST) > Kris <kristc99 >Re: What to Believe????? > >I didn't read the whole lengthy thing, but I can tell you >my experience. I'm am almost 50, been vegetarian since my >early 20's, through pregancies, extended nursing and all. >My 22 yr old daughter is vegetarian, my 16 yr old daughter >is not (this is a free choice family) All of us are very >healthy, almost never missing school or work because of >illness for years at a time, and we are all very happy and >active. We rarely take suppliments, maybe just an >occasional multi vitamin when it seems like everyone around >us is sick. > >Illness and health issues are complicated and cannot be >blamed on only one factor unless your diet is really >deficient somehow. Eat a variety of foods, listen to your >body if it is craving something, and use your common sense >and you'll be fine. > >This is my opinion only, not to be mistaken for any sort of >expert or medical opinion. It is also my opinion that you >can't believe a lot of what you read, so listen quietly and >form your own opinions. > >Kris > > >--- athomemom56 <barbramcfa wrote: > > As someone who is trying to become a vegetarian, you know > > what to > > believe. Check this out and tell me what you think. My > > email is > > barbramcfa > > > > http://chetday.com/vegmyths.htm > > > > Barbra > > > > > > > > > > > > >Great stuff seeking new owners in Auctions! >http://auctions. > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 3 > Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:24:51 -0800 (PST) > Celia Elise <evil_maiden >Re: What to Believe????? > > > > As someone who is trying to become a vegetarian, > > you know > > > what to > > > believe. Check this out and tell me what you > > think. My > > > email is > > > barbramcfa > > > > > > http://chetday.com/vegmyths.htm > >Here's the reason I think he's a quack: > >1. He's a doctor of Naturopathy, not a nuitritionist. >Natural Medicine is a very broad science. > >2. RNCP, which I'm guessing is a register nurse >clinical practicioner, which means he's gotten the >3-hour course on nuitrition. Yeah, yeah, he's >researched, but so have many others, he's as >believable as the next guy with a clipboard in his >hand. > >3. he starts his argument by talking about a poor >/nameless/ couple who have suffered bad nuitrition >from a vegetarian diet, and then from there starts >bashing the environmental aspects of vegetarianism. > >And my god, how I hate those people " whine whine, some >lands needs to have animals on it. " There are lands >that do not support argiculture, but there are tons of >lands that would, but are torn down for other reasons. > > >4. " how plant foods don't sustain us " is easily met >with the wonderous method of fortication. Yes, B12 >doesn't come from plant sources, he neglects to >mention there are artificial ways of getting it. But, >I think he has a problem with artificial foods. > >5. He quotes a nuitritionist a total of once - and >only to prove that nutrients vary from person to >person - he doesn't directly quote to support a >meat-eating diet, only to prove that it's possible >some people do better on certain diets. > >6. He contradicts himself " the human body needs >saturated and unsaturated fats " " vegetable fats are >bad " " animals do contain fats " " fats are linked to >cancer here " " but not here. " > >7. I have yet to see ANYWHERE else this myth that soy >is really hideously toxic. > >8. He claims milk and eggs, since they do not involve >killing animals, are okay. This is a clear >misunderstanding of the reason people become vegan - >and a misunderstanding of the actualities of where >milk comes from. > >Really, I don't believe this guy anymore than other >anti-vegetarian people. I say go to a nuitritionist, >find out what is healthy for YOUR body, ask about a >vegan diet and specific things you might need to get >from it. > >Another thing, just because I'm in an annoyed mood: >Yes, I think it is really sick and disgusting to kill >an animal because " it's tasty and it's easier to get >vitamins that way. " I think that with this lovely >modern society, we can manage a healthy diet for all >that doesn't involve slaughter. > > > >Celia > > > >Great stuff seeking new owners in Auctions! >http://auctions. > > >______________________ >______________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Hey thanks for all the help on the"Vegetarian Myth" thing. Barbra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 FWIW, I would be happy to see the alternative treat contributed by Melanie in my child's trick-or-treat bag. I try to make a (good) fuss over anything that's an alternative to candy. The ingredients list is a good idea to include for kids with allergies. And to take it a step further, a print-out of the recipe with measured amounts and directions would enable parents to make more if they want. Within reason, I like to help dispell the fear around my son of the mythical bad people out there--especially those in our neighborhood that would poison Halloween treats. (Although just yesterday I reminded my 7-year-old son not to strike up conversations with people he doesn't know well.) As someone else already mentioned, the documentary " Bowling for Columbine " made a profound impact on me about our culture of fear in the US. Although it's prudent to be cautious and aware, the movie talked about how we are trained to be afraid--very afraid--by the media trying to capitalize on our fear. On another point, I found Smart Foods " chicken " strips next to the tofu section in my grocery store a few days ago. I tried in a stir fry last night. It's been so long since I had chicken it was alarming how much it tasted like chicken. But it's vegan and kosher, so I thought it would be worth saying it's not bad and I'd buy it again! My son liked it too. Veggie Val --- Sandra Mort <sandra.mort wrote: > I can't speak for anyone else, but my children > would not be permitted to eat this, even WITH a > nametag. I'm curious -- do you guys disagree? I > suppose it's a moot point since we don't celebrate > Halloween, but I was curious... > Sandra The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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