Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 On Mar 1, 2009, at 7:53 PM, Elchanan wrote: > 2. Science is presently aware of thousands and thousands of > nutrients, and > many more probably await future discovery. True. I've often mentioned there may be thousands of nutrients still undiscovered. > 3. Therefore, eating for individual nutrients is almost always a > self-defeating proposition. And that is what you propose here ... to > eat > mushrooms in an attempt to gather in some vitamin D. I, basically, don't eat for nutrients, individual or otherwise. I just eat (one exception is when doing " experiments " ). I find the subject of vitamin D from mushrooms interesting. This is an experiment to me. I'll likely go back to rarely eating mushrooms, like I did before (although Thrive's chili contains mushrooms. I enjoy their chili!). As I've also mentioned, other aspects of my blood analysis may be affected. In other words, perhaps not just the vitamin D may be affected. As science may be unaware of a great many nutrients, blood analysis only looks at individual nutrients. Unknown nutrients and their effects on the body may go unnoticed. As you mention, this is only one nutrient. As a vegan, I appreciate that there is a non-animal source of vitamin D for those .who do not get enough sun and/or are looking for supplementation (or just worry about getting enough D) > Jeff, many people are unaware just how little sunlight it takes to > get the > body producing vitamin D. Go for a 30-minute walk as frequently as > you can. > Find a window to sit in front of, take off as many clothes as > circumstances > and personal comfort permit, and sit there when the sun shines in. > (Yes, the > glass filters out some of the sunlight, but not all, not even > close.) My > point is that you can indeed do some things to engage with the > sun ... and > that this will benefit you in many ways, beyond vitamin D. For > example, just > going for regular walks will expose you to light, fresh air > movement, and > more. > > In other words, what I'm suggesting is that you're asking a self- > limiting > question and that you consider changing the question entirely. For > example, > you might ask yourself, " How CAN I get some sunshine in my life, > even here > in the NW Territory? How would Lewis and Clark have done so? " Allow > your > sense of curiosity and play to come to the fore, rather than having > it be > some serious-seeming inquiry. As my last year's test was considerably higher than the previous year (without mushrooms or supplements of any kind) I realize I did pretty well using the sun (though there are still other variables). Your point, however, is still appreciated. I don't know what question you are considering " self-limiting " . I'm curious if eating mushrooms prior to my vitamin D test will result in a higher level of D (according to the test). It may not be an exact scientific study, but if the change is significant, then it will likely satisfy my curiosity. If I have a sense that this little study is confirmed, it is one more piece of information I can share with others who may be paranoid about giving up their pasteurized/homogenized bovine mammary secretions. While this may be a raw list, away from this list I still deal with a lot of questions from people closer to Standard American Diets. > Regarding the mushrooms per se, as I've already written in another > post > earlier today, from my perspective, under normal circumstances, the > cost, in > terms of energy and other resources, of processing and eliminating the > mushrooms outweighs any potential benefit. By " normal circumstances, > I mean > not famine, not war, etc. I recognize that any " food " that may have a toxic element, may have a detrimental effect on the body. > You may find it interesting to know that mushrooms are no longer > considered > plants. I mention this because, if I have the right sense of your > chronological age, you were probably taught about the 2 kingdoms of > life, > plants and animals. But the biological taxonomy is a hopeless mess, > (those > most of the scientists will not yet say so in public). Right now, many > biologists acknowledge fungi (which subsumes mushrooms) as a kingdom > of life > entirely distinct from plants, animals, and the other kingdoms. So > when you > consider eating mushrooms, from a biological perspective, you're not > even > speaking of eating plants. I don't consider mushrooms as plants, though I recognize much of our society may (many are still confused with " fruits " and " vegetables " ). I consider mushrooms fungi. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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