Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Thank you for everyone's comments. I think you all gave very valid responses (all of which were very true for me too). I think perhaps i should change the group intro thingy a bit so that we don't have this problem in future. Thanks for your support on this issue guys, Laura (uk) , " daveo " <daveo@m...> wrote: > *****Megan wrote... > >>...vegetarian/vegan is just that, no meat products whatsoever in the diet. > << > > I agree. > > Since this is a veggie group and I'm veggie for many years, I'm not > interested in helping someone who's not committed to being a veggie decide > if 3 oz of animal flesh is going to be helpful in their diet. If Ron had > asked about non-meat alternatives, then we have a much different situation. > However, that was not his approach. > > By the way, Ron, in spite of all my comments, I hope you remain in the > group. You have much to offer. > > Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 For some reason the links didn't come through the first time. Sorry. Here they are again. Please see http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/b12rec.html You can download http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/B122002.pdf or http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/b12 for more information. ~Janice~ Be your own cheerleader! Encourage yourself every step of the way! " Do not blame others for making you mad. Anger is a choice. Choose wisely " If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian. ~Paul McCartney ~ - ~Janice~ VeganForLife ; Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:18 PM B12 Please see this page for B12 recommendations. You can download Vitamin B12: Are You Getting It? (1MB pdf) or read it on-line for more information. ~Janice~ Be your own cheerleader! Encourage yourself every step of the way! " Do not blame others for making you mad. Anger is a choice. Choose wisely " If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian. ~Paul McCartney ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 In the Silk brand soymilk, on the package it states that you can get 50% of your B12 requirements per each 8 oz. glass of milk. Seeing as how I drink at least two glasses a day, I'm covered. This goes for the Very Vanilla, the Chocolate and the Plain varieties--ones I've got in our fridge right now. By the way, an extra little plug for the Silk Plain: it's great on cereal, tastes great, tastes BETTER than cow's milk. :>) HTH, Bron On 11/17/05, linda <lindai81 wrote: > > B12 is a necessary vitamin that vegans do not get as they don't consume > any meat, eggs or dairy products. Vegetarians do so they don't need the > supplement. You can get B12 in your regular vitamins (cobalamin is the best > form), but the " under your tongue " (sublingual lozenge) is assimilated by > your body better. Your body doesn't make this particular vitamin so you have > to use outside sources...it used to be on our foods in the dirt...LOL... and > is exclusively synthesized by bacteria and found primarily in meat, eggs and > dairy products. You could just not wash your veggies and if the right > bacteria is on it that will work, however, you really don't want to do that > as you may then ingest e-coli too along with a lot of other little meanies > or chemicals. You need very little B12 and as a matter of fact your body > stores it and reabsorbs it and it takes a few years to exhaust that storage. > However if you do the consequences are serious and can't be reversed. There > are different ranges for the B12 intake...I just kind of look at it as > getting 3 mcg a day is safe...and most of the tablets out there are way more > than that...like 1,000 or more. So I take it a couple of times a week > knowing that my body will just dump an excess anyway. I don't know why they > put so much in the supplements but they do and it isn't thought to be toxic. > Some people rely on food stuffs to get it like Red Star Nutritional Yeast ( > a lot of foods are fortified with it) but they are not sure that is adequate > or that all absorb it well so I go for the vitamin. I use one put out by > VegLife Vegan B12, it has 1,000 mcg the lowest I could find and it has 400 > mcg folic acid. There are 50 lozenges and $5.25 (US). Since I only take it 2 > times a week it seems cheaper and tastier than some of the other B12 sources > that may not be so reliable. It uses Stevia leaf extract for the sweetener. > > You can look it up on the net for more information...a short one is: > http://www.vegsoc.org/info/b12.html > linda > " Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you > do it. " > Mohandas Gandhi > > linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: womyn47 > - > Samantha Lea > > Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:51 PM > RE: Re: Yah Veggies! and brown rice and yeast > flakes > > > What does the B12 do? I've never heard of the under the tongue stuff - > I'll have to look for it. > Samantha > > If you are a vegan please do not forget to take B12...the kind that > melts in your mouth under your tongue. It is very cheap. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 WOW!!! That is simply amazing! I didn't know the human body could retain stuff like that! Again I say, WOW!!! ***Sara*** In a message dated 5/23/2006 2:01:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scarlettvivian writes: I just began reading, " Vegetarian Times Vegetarian Beginner's Guide. " In it the author discusses B12, stating that if you ever ate meat in your life, your body is able to retain B12 for 5 to 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 > I have never heard that your body is able to retain B12, that's interesting... It is found in many processed type foods, like enriched cereals, just check labels(Total comes to mind). I know that it is in Nutritional Yeast, which can be sprinkled on food like a seasoning and is good for vegans. If you are not vegan you can get B12 in eggs or dairy products. hope that helps : ) melissa p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Melissa, The flora in the intestines reproduce it if one has good digestion and if they do not get antibiotics. GB Re: B12 > I have never heard that your body is able to retain B12, that's interesting... It is found in many processed type foods, like enriched cereals, just check labels(Total comes to mind). I know that it is in Nutritional Yeast, which can be sprinkled on food like a seasoning and is good for vegans. If you are not vegan you can get B12 in eggs or dairy products. hope that helps : ) melissa p Gurubandhu If you cannot see God in all, You cannot see God at all. Yogi Bhajan Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Sea vegetables are loaded with B vitamins. I get mine from Dr. Richard Schulze. (Superfood) 1-800-HERB-DOC. Call and ask for his free newsletter. Betsy jem_3000 <jem_1000 wrote: Yes, sorry, I'm going there again. My question to you all is do you supplement with b12 and if so, from where? I just ordered the lozenges from Gabriel Cousens' site and was wondering if anyone else used them, or the other vitamin b supplement he has up there, from fermented bacteria or something. thx ^^ Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I don't do supplements in general (except for the zelayte fiasco :-). I keep hearing conflicting reports on the b12 issue. Some say although our body does produce it, it is too far done in the intestines for our bodies to absorb it, others say eating a raw vegan diet your body will produce the b12 it needs and still others say our food has been too sterilized to supply us with the raw materials we need to create the b12. I have been vegan for 2 years, 13-14 months of that being raw and have may b12, calcium, vitamin d, along with some other stuff checked at my annual physical and so far my levels are good. I figure I'll worry about it when I don't feel like my energy is where it should be or if the blood levels drop below normal. -Mike --- jem_3000 <jem_1000 wrote: > Yes, sorry, I'm going there again. > > My question to you all is do you supplement with b12 and if so, from > where? I just ordered the lozenges from Gabriel Cousens' site and was > wondering if anyone else used them, or the other vitamin b supplement > he has up there, from fermented bacteria or something. > > thx ^^ > > Jen > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Yes I know, but I've heard claims saying the B in sea vegetables is not bioavailable. Jen rawfood , Elizabeth Sinkey <westoo wrote: > > Sea vegetables are loaded with B vitamins. I get mine from Dr. Richard Schulze. (Superfood) 1-800-HERB-DOC. Call and ask for his free newsletter. > Betsy > > > > jem_3000 <jem_1000 wrote: > Yes, sorry, I'm going there again. > > My question to you all is do you supplement with b12 and if so, from > where? I just ordered the lozenges from Gabriel Cousens' site and was > wondering if anyone else used them, or the other vitamin b supplement > he has up there, from fermented bacteria or something. > > thx ^^ > > Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 At Fri, 7 Jul 2006 it looks like jem_3000 composed: > Yes I know, but I've heard claims saying the B in sea vegetables is > not bioavailable. http;//notmilk.com had a great source for b12, can't find the link though, but will keep looking. -- Bill Schoolcraft || http://wiliweld.com <> " To be unhappy over what one lacks is to waste what one already possesses. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Perhaps this? http://www.notmilk.com/vitaminb12.html : ) Jen rawfood , Bill Schoolcraft <Bill wrote: > > At Fri, 7 Jul 2006 it looks like jem_3000 composed: > > > Yes I know, but I've heard claims saying the B in sea vegetables is > > not bioavailable. > > http;//notmilk.com had a great source for b12, can't find the link > though, but will keep looking. > > > -- > Bill Schoolcraft || http://wiliweld.com > <> > " To be unhappy over what one lacks is to > waste what one already possesses. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 At Fri, 7 Jul 2006 it looks like jem_3000 composed: > Perhaps this? > > http://www.notmilk.com/vitaminb12.html > > : ) > > Jen Actually that was not the reference I was thinking of... oh, well, all the more for me! -- Bill Schoolcraft || http://wiliweld.com <> " To be unhappy over what one lacks is to waste what one already possesses. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Thank you for the info on the b12! Warmest Giavonne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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