Respnding to Blanc, SV, & Sam

[Guest guest]

BLANC: I have listened Blanc, but I have heard those ideas MANY times

before for around 25 years and because one is NOT persuaded by them does NOT

mean one is NOT listening. I appreciate the idea about juicing pumpkins!

 

SV: No, I am NOT a Hallelujah Acres Health Minister. But I usually attend

what I call a " Hallelujah Diet Recipe Potluck " every Tuesday from 6-8pm. I

call it that because one doesn't have to bring food. They have four recipes

every week and one can choose to make one of those or not. Held at Jerrod &

Nikki Sesslers, 635 133rd St. Burien. (206) 551-6100 nikki

Anyone is welcome to attend! First time is FREE, after that they only ask

for a $5 donation to cover food costs. I may not be able to attend again

until 11/18.

 

SAM: Be an example and NEVER give up! Again, non-family member can often

persude better than family members. Applies to more than just physical

health, shouldn't be that way, but it is...

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Oh, trust me, I never intend to give up! I've been fighting for my own life for

the past many years, and I haven't had any physical disease to worry about, but

I now know the value of life. I'm 23 years old...as a child, my father

physically abused me; as a young teenager up until 21, my dad mentally abused

me. My dad was diagnosed (when I was 20 or 21) with being bipolar, so he started

blaming his actions on that. All my life, he'd yell and curse at my mom, and

slap and hurt her. I remember seeing my mom with a few bruises and asked her

what happened, and she said she accidentally hit her arm at work, but I knew I

didn't see any marks on her arm when she got back from work that day. She

accepted his torture. Well, my sister and I didn't. My sister left for college

soon after she graduated, and I didn't think I'd be college material, so I

waited 2 years and endured the torture from my dad. Well, at 21, I met a guy

online that had suffered abuse as well

(from old girlfriends), and we got to talking about ourselves and really felt

it was meant to be. So, long story short, I left home to be with him, and hadn't

gone back since!

 

Even in the past 2 years, I've suffered a great deal. The guy I met, my now

husband, had to learn to stay calm when I got upset (otherwise, I'd go into a

panic attack, repeat things my dad told me like " I'm just a waste of sperm " and

" I'm worthless and not meant to live " , and fall even further into depression).

Every day is a fight for me. I constantly am reminded of what my dad did and

said to me, and keep falling into depression every once in a while.

 

And I know what you mean by it applies to more than just physical health. My

problems weren't just physical. I thought they were (I lived my WHOLE life being

obese, 260 pounds at my largest, and had always been picked on and such because

of it). I went into the Vegan lifestyle not only because I learned of the pain

and suffering animals go through, but mainly due to my health. (I figured I

myself can't stop the torture of animals, but I didn't want to be a part of it,

and needed to change my health around if I was gonna continue living.) Also, my

husband has epilepsy, so it helped him reduce his seizures. Well, so far, I'm

down to 220 pounds (a 40 pound loss), but even with that loss (and most likely

an improvement in health), I can't get rid of emotional problems. I've always

considered myself very stubborn emotionally (I have to want something SO bad to

decide to change). Turning Vegan was easy, whereas emotional healing isn't. I've

gone through

major changes, though, just in the past few weeks alone, by cutting down my

amount of panic attacks and taking deep breaths and talking to my husband about

what upsets me. And yet I've still got so many emotional blocks (I still can't

look in the mirror and honestly say that I love myself, physically and

emotionally). I guess I'm just full of invisible (emotional) scars from my past.

 

I know I'm not alone. It seems like EVERYONE has problems these days (whether

mental, physical, disabled, diseased, etc.), and it takes effort to fight

through it. I think sometimes it just takes time to learn what you should do,

though. I've had many times I was depressed or went into panic attacks, then

cried next to my husband and told him that it's too hard and that I just wanted

to die. I knew it's just weakness to give up and die, but I seriously wanted

that because it was so hard for me to change my life for the positive. My

husband just stayed nearby, comforted me, and if needed was assertive about

telling me I have to force a change in my life or I'd keep suffering like that.

Now, I'm more positive and don't give in so easily to wanting to die, but I know

some people have suffered physical/mental abuse worse than me and have a much

harder time of changing. Same with all disabilities and diseases and such. I

think that there's many cases where NO

ONE can help the victim (in my grandpa's case, not family nor stranger could

convince him otherwise). Though for all cases, I do think it's best to at least

prolong their life (letting them suffer pain) and explain to them that if they

want the pain to stop that we can help them but it's going to take effort from

them. If they continually refuse, though, and truely see no more point in living

(whether sick and tired of being hooked up to a machine all their life or

whatever), then I think they deserve the right to go peacefully and with respect

for their choice. I know if that was the case for me, I'd want to just go

peacefully rather than in even more pain.

 

 

 

 

 

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" health " <health

 

Sunday, November 2, 2008 7:37:24 AM

Respnding to Blanc, SV, & Sam

 

 

BLANC: I have listened Blanc, but I have heard those ideas MANY times

before for around 25 years and because one is NOT persuaded by them does NOT

mean one is NOT listening. I appreciate the idea about juicing pumpkins!

 

SV: No, I am NOT a Hallelujah Acres Health Minister. But I usually attend

what I call a " Hallelujah Diet Recipe Potluck " every Tuesday from 6-8pm. I

call it that because one doesn't have to bring food. They have four recipes

every week and one can choose to make one of those or not. Held at Jerrod &

Nikki Sesslers, 635 133rd St. Burien. (206) 551-6100 nikki (AT) hometask (DOT) com

Anyone is welcome to attend! First time is FREE, after that they only ask

for a $5 donation to cover food costs. I may not be able to attend again

until 11/18.

 

SAM: Be an example and NEVER give up! Again, non-family member can often

persude better than family members. Applies to more than just physical

health, shouldn't be that way, but it is...

 

 

[Guest guest]

But you are preaching to the choir, here. Most everyone on the list

is already convinced of the propriety of eating raw and taking

assiduous care of their health.

 

Once you have approached a few of those terminally ill who are so

racked with pain that they would rather die (especially those who are

so incapacitated that they couldn't even do the deed by themselves),

and have convinced them that a raw diet is going to turn everything

around, then you could come back to the list and relate to everyone

the details of how you were successful not only in convincing them to

change their unhealthy lifestyle, but also of how their health was

restored in time to save them within the expected short time they

still had available to them.

 

Success is the best argument.

 

 

Blanc

 

 

 

On Nov 2, 2008, at 7:37 AM, <health

<health

> wrote:

 

> BLANC: I have listened Blanc, but I have heard those ideas MANY times

> before for around 25 years and because one is NOT persuaded by them

> does NOT

> mean one is NOT listening. I appreciate the idea about juicing

> pumpkins!

>