RE: Death with Dignity/Nora

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My name is Jim Casale. I would be glad to! For anyone that has a

life-threatening or already diagnosed terminal illness. To contact me use

this email or my voicemail (206) 559-6247. Can be used 24/7. Leave a VM

and I will return the VM ASAP. If I don't respond please VM again until you

do. Email is my preferred method of communication. Often times strangers

can be more effective than family members! Most people don't have the

discipline or knowledge to make a dramatic change so I suggest

http://www.halifestylecenters.com/ Or IF there is a terminal illness

http://oasisofhope.com/cancerhospital/clinical-services/hallelujah-acres-cli

nic.html

 

I have NO magic or secrets! There are MANY ways you can inspire people!

Especially to do things for those that care about them! The bottom-line is

ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES! IF someone will not do what it takes to be

healthy, then they shouldn't have an " easy out. " Having that " easy out "

will NOT motivate people to do what it takes to have health! IF they know

there is no " easy out " then they are more likely to be motivated to make

healthy lifestyle choices. Two wrongs do NOT make a right! Regarding your

assumption that my realization that a healthy lifestyle would reverse

disease. I have known that for 30+ years.

 

I never stated that every person could be persuaded. But that NOBODY should

kill themselves without have the correct & complete info! We all KNOW that

doctors don't have correct & complete info, so why should we accept their

diagnosis?!? I have seen personally, with family & friends how their

diagnosis is more times than not WRONG! Doctors can't even be counted on

for proper diagnosis, MUCH less treatment! Even the Washington State

Medical Association is against I-1000.

 

On Behalf Of Nora Lenz

Saturday, November 01, 2008 8:17 AM

Re: Death with Dignity

 

 

I have an idea, health. Since you seem to have

figured

out how to put hope into the minds of people who believe there is none,

the

next time one of us has a loved one who's dying from making the wrong

choices, you can come over and do your magic that will make them clean up

their act.

 

If you're not willing to do this, maybe you can just let us in on a few of

your secrets. There are lots of us who are making the right choices who

have to watch our loved ones suffer the consequences of their wrong ones.

It's one of the hardest parts of being healthy. Tell us, how do we make

people do what they don't want to do?

 

The truth is, it is only through allowing people to deal with the

consequences of their own actions that they will learn to avoid making the

same mistakes over and over. I had to suffer a bit when I changed my diet,

as a consequence of decades of self-abuse. Of course, as we all know, if I

hadn't changed my diet the suffering would have been greater, later on. I

would like to have avoided suffering *completely* but the fact is, it

taught

me very valuable lessons. Nature set it up that way -- you transgress, you

suffer, you learn that you must not transgress and this allows you to

avoid

suffering. It is up to each individual to learn this for him/herself.

Sadly, some people don't learn in time and it's not because the

information

isn't available. In the vast majority of cases, it's because their minds

are closed, and nothing will open them. This is especially true of people

who have put themselves in the hands of the medical profession. How are we

going to get " complete and correct information " to people who are

surrounded

by doctors?

 

I remember what it was like to have the realization that disease is

reversible, avoidable and altogether unnecessary. I get the impression

this

has happened fairly recently for you. The rest of us have known for

decades

and we're already doing everything we can to educate the world. If we

can't

even convince our own relatives, I'd love to hear how you think we can

sway

dying strangers.

 

Best wishes,

Nora