Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I have an idea, health. Since you seem to have figured out how to put hope into the minds of people who believe there is none, the next time one of us has a loved one who's dying from making the wrong choices, you can come over and do your magic that will make them clean up their act. If you're not willing to do this, maybe you can just let us in on a few of your secrets. There are lots of us who are making the right choices who have to watch our loved ones suffer the consequences of their wrong ones. It's one of the hardest parts of being healthy. Tell us, how do we make people do what they don't want to do? The truth is, it is only through allowing people to deal with the consequences of their own actions that they will learn to avoid making the same mistakes over and over. I had to suffer a bit when I changed my diet, as a consequence of decades of self-abuse. Of course, as we all know, if I hadn't changed my diet the suffering would have been greater, later on. I would like to have avoided suffering *completely* but the fact is, it taught me very valuable lessons. Nature set it up that way -- you transgress, you suffer, you learn that you must not transgress and this allows you to avoid suffering. It is up to each individual to learn this for him/herself. Sadly, some people don't learn in time and it's not because the information isn't available. In the vast majority of cases, it's because their minds are closed, and nothing will open them. This is especially true of people who have put themselves in the hands of the medical profession. How are we going to get " complete and correct information " to people who are surrounded by doctors? I remember what it was like to have the realization that disease is reversible, avoidable and altogether unnecessary. I get the impression this has happened fairly recently for you. The rest of us have known for decades and we're already doing everything we can to educate the world. If we can't even convince our own relatives, I'd love to hear how you think we can sway dying strangers. Best wishes, Nora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 After a couple of very busy days, I'll try to catch up on some of these emails. It's true that many of us recognize that there are consequences to our dietary choices. We also may realize that there will be consequences to our present choices, even if we are eating considerably better than we used to. I recognize clearly, like Nora suggested, that I cannot force others to change their diets. While that may, somehow, be possible, it would not likely invite lifestyle changes. In a forced situation, some may recognize that they feel better, but it would not likely be a calm and friendly interaction. It may cause resentment and a renewed resolve to eat poorly. Here's a thought: If we do not forbid people from consuming toxic " food " , then why would we forbid them from consuming more toxic food (in the form of pills or injections)? I recognize " foods " of my past were toxic; they included toxins or were in forms that were toxic or had toxic effects on my body. I was allowed to consume those popular " foods " and learned from my experiences. Others may not learn from their diet and health experiences in the same way. Perhaps they do learn from those experiences, but choose to ignore the consequences or are addicted to the " foods " (which is a whole other issue - should people intervene addictions?). When they get to the point of severe chronic disease after decades of toxic " foods " and they suffer greatly from the resulting symptoms, do we have the right to intervene and say they cannot consume a more toxic food to end their life and they can only be allowed to continue eating toxic foods and can continue consuming the concentrated toxic foods (medications) that they are currently consuming? We may recognize these health issues may be reversible, but the medical establishment and pharmaceutical industry seem to have no understanding (or wish not to admit it) of diet and nutrition, as well as true health. Patients may be supported in their causing their own disease with a handshake, pat on the back, and a hug (along with a whopping medical bill). They may feel cared for and they are not told they have to stop eating their favorite foods. If my own relatives were in that situation of chronic horrible pain and have received an inevitable death sentence, while I would not likely make that choice for them, after decades of them choosing a toxic lifestyle - with absolutely NO interest in changing - I recognize they are masters of their lives, they make their choices, and they pay any consequences. I choose my battles. I'm not interested in banning alcohol, cooked food, animal products, artificial ingredients, etc., etc., though I do wish to do my part to help educate people. While I do not wish to encourage the behavior of prescribing lethal doses, do I have the right to decide other's choices? It may not be about right vs. wrong, but rather who gets to make that right or wrong choice. If people are suffering and have been diagnosed with expected death within 6 months and want out now, I'd like the option to be this: Remove ALL medications, and give them only pure water (maybe fresh raw organic vegetable juices). They may think that would hasten death, but after water fasting for a while, we may see some interesting changes. Fasting may be overwhelming to some toxic bodies, but it would be more natural than lethal dose. If people want us to limit the choice to consume (via pill or injection, etc.) toxic poison, then perhaps we really should ban toxic " foods " that create disease. If they want limitation, let's give it to them!(?) Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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