Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Good morning (EST), The FOX news interview brings up an issue I've been struggling with in dealing with other people - even the ones that like me (and there aren't very many of those). I feel I have much more energy and vitality because I eat food that does. This comes across to other people as pushiness and aggression. I've just come across a (rather old) book called " Creative Aggression " by Herb Goldberg - who happens to be raw, although I'm not sure he was when he wrote the book. He was interviewed by Revvell Revati (excellent podcasts on her site btw) talking about a new book he's written on male/female relationships, but didn't mention this book. Has anyone else read it, or heard anything about it. I presume it's about how to channel your energies in ways that won't trigger fearful reactions. This topic is important to me as I've decided to stay in a family that is beligerently and irrationally non-raw. I rationalize this as finishing the family that I started. To use a metaphor, it's like my wife and I are co-piloting a plane but she's steering it toward a cliff. I can influence her enough to steer us to a survivable crash landing, but she won't let me take enough control to land us safely at a rewarding destination airport. To divorce would be like bailing out - even though I would then have the option of making all my own decisions I'd still be liable for their injuries and medical bills when they crash. If you think I should take this discussion to the Raw Wisdom site just let me know - but nobody ever goes there so I'd just be talking to myself. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Hello Nick, I offer my sympathies. I've had similar problems myself in the past. When I quit drinking and my wife continued, we eventually split over this problem. When I quit smoking and my friends didn't, we eventually split over this incompatibility. Before that was the group of drug addicts I ran around with in college. When I quit drugs, it seemed we no longer had anything in common! Most recently, I've told my doctor that I am no longer willing to take Depacote to stabilize my bipolar disorder because the devastating side effects are ruining my health! I'm sure things will soon come to a close with this doctor--though I'm not going to be the one to make that decision. Some days it is all I can do just to " live and let live. " I'm never going to convince this doctor that taking drugs and toxins is not the way to superior health, so I just have to let him have his own beliefs. What I do know is that I've had enough Depacote, and if my decision to quit taking it means the end of my relationship with this doctor, then so be it! If he is willing to continue our therapeutic relationship without using drugs on me, that's fine with me--but when you take drugs away from a psychiatrist, he's just another guy with an opinion! Ron , " Nick Hein " <nick.hein wrote: > > Good morning (EST), > The FOX news interview brings up an issue I've been struggling with in dealing with other people - even the ones that like me (and there aren't very many of those). I feel I have much more energy and vitality because I eat food that does. This comes across to other people as pushiness and aggression. I've just come across a (rather old) book called " Creative Aggression " by Herb Goldberg - who happens to be raw, although I'm not sure he was when he wrote the book. He was interviewed by Revvell Revati (excellent podcasts on her site btw) talking about a new book he's written on male/female relationships, but didn't mention this book. > > Has anyone else read it, or heard anything about it. I presume it's about how to channel your energies in ways that won't trigger fearful reactions. This topic is important to me as I've decided to stay in a family that is beligerently and irrationally non-raw. I rationalize this as finishing the family that I started. To use a metaphor, it's like my wife and I are co-piloting a plane but she's steering it toward a cliff. I can influence her enough to steer us to a survivable crash landing, but she won't let me take enough control to land us safely at a rewarding destination airport. To divorce would be like bailing out - even though I would then have the option of making all my own decisions I'd still be liable for their injuries and medical bills when they crash. > > If you think I should take this discussion to the Raw Wisdom site just let me know - but nobody ever goes there so I'd just be talking to myself. > Thanks. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Nick I know what you are going through and I give you my heart felt support. I chose to change my lifestyle in many ways and as a result there have been problems with the family dynamics. Through the years I have chosen to " tough it out " for the sake of my children, who are older than yours. My youngest is now 20 and not quite " launched " . I finally ask my husband for a separation. We are currently going to counseling instead. I have worked hard over the past years to mend our relationship but it takes two to make it work. He is finally putting some effort for the sake of our relationship. It is not easy. Both of us are wounded, but we still care enough about the other and are willing to do the work to see if we can make it work out. One of the things that has come up in counseling is that I have changed the rules of our relationship. What served when we were first married no longer applies. The question now, is he willing to accept these new rules and stay in the relationship. Am I willing to accommodate him by accepting him as he is? We still have much to work do, but I thought these points may be of help. Nick was my neighbor. For the rest of the group I will give a bit of background. It was while I sought greater spiritual awareness that I was led to change my diet. I have been raw for over seven years. Previously I was vegan and before that, vegetarian. All the while my family remained " cooked " . I still cook for them and friends while I prepare my own raw food. It is my choice to prepare cooked food for those that want it. I do not judge, but accept that they will come to their own best decision about their own lifestyle. I can only be the best example of one possibility And maybe I will inspire a change. Follow your heart and your own inner guidance. It will lead you to where you need to go or be. Love and Light In-Joy Ramona -------------- Original message ---------------------- " Nick Hein " <nick.hein > Good morning (EST), > The FOX news interview brings up an issue I've been struggling with in dealing > with other people - even the ones that like me (and there aren't very many of > those). I feel I have much more energy and vitality because I eat food that > does. This comes across to other people as pushiness and aggression. I've just > come across a (rather old) book called " Creative Aggression " by Herb Goldberg - > who happens to be raw, although I'm not sure he was when he wrote the book. He > was interviewed by Revvell Revati (excellent podcasts on her site btw) talking > about a new book he's written on male/female relationships, but didn't mention > this book. > > Has anyone else read it, or heard anything about it. I presume it's about how > to channel your energies in ways that won't trigger fearful reactions. This > topic is important to me as I've decided to stay in a family that is > beligerently and irrationally non-raw. I rationalize this as finishing the > family that I started. To use a metaphor, it's like my wife and I are > co-piloting a plane but she's steering it toward a cliff. I can influence her > enough to steer us to a survivable crash landing, but she won't let me take > enough control to land us safely at a rewarding destination airport. To divorce > would be like bailing out - even though I would then have the option of making > all my own decisions I'd still be liable for their injuries and medical bills > when they crash. > > If you think I should take this discussion to the Raw Wisdom site just let me > know - but nobody ever goes there so I'd just be talking to myself. > Thanks. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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