Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 What Tim (I cannot speak about Loren) learned about fasting, he did not learn in that place. This is not a " natural hygiene approach " problem, what in the world does that even mean? You say that mistakes were made. What mistakes? I mean, do you actually KNOW something, or are just just making stuff up? In most cases, when people make stuff up (most of the time), the impact may be negligible. But here you are speaking of lfe and death, and of people's reputations. The impact may not be negligible. The medical industry kills ... directly ... more than a million people annually in the U.S., and this does not include all those who die after having been turned away for lack of resources. Here, one person dies, and you seem ready to pump " medical supervision " . What does this mean? Fasting has helped hundreds of thousands in ways that transcend what is available by any other means. Every year or two or three or four, one person dies while fasting ... not necessarily BECAUSE they were fasting ... and the mainstream is ready to pounce. This, I understand. But why you buy into it, this I don't understand. Best, Elchanan _____ On Behalf Of LifeFood Lifestyle - Yashpal Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:41 PM RE: Unlicensed pair fined for administering fatal fast With all respect to both Tim and Loren, they are good people. Unfortunately this is one of the misgivings of a purely natural hygiene approach. There were mistakes made. Clayton college, etc does not prepare practitioners for advanced medical decisions. Stephen Barrett is a ruthless - " quackbuster " so any info from him is biased, he is avidly against most things I do. However, the attacks were " overkill " and I do not know who gets the $390,000. I do not know what else to say, however one needs to understand the difference between medical support and supervision, and simply being a caregiver during fasting. I believe it would be detrimental for our community to defend that these cases were managed correctly. And I know that I have made mistakes in my days and probably will again, though I would never just take someone off insulin without constant monitoring, etc. I just felt the need to add some perspective, please understand if I do not take the time to continue fully in dialogue for this issue, though I will be reading any responses. Namaste, Yashpal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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