Fruit Quality - Gemini + Quest' for ElCHANAN From Kay

June 24, 2005

Kay korangeli Friday, June 24, 2005 3:49 AM [Raw Food]

Re: Gemini - Fruit Quality + Quest' for ElCHANAN From Kay

rawfood , pkunk_1999 <no_reply> wrote: And I

wanted to ask: If I soak nuts\seeds in water and add some organic apple

cider vinegar to the soaking water, will it enhance the soaking, making it

more effective\ " faster " etc? Logically I would think so because it would

perhaprs start some pre-mini-fermentation as well as the more acidic water

breaking the fats more effectively.

Thanks

love

Gemini.

Kay here;

Elchanan - Can you pass on your old post about ACETIC ACID acid (vinegar)for

Gemini please?

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Great idea, Kay, thanks for the suggestion. I found several snippets I've

written on the topic, so I've simply copied and pasted them below. This

produces some redundancy, but I am teaching a workshop (ministry/law) this

weekend and so I choose to focus on that right now. Hope some find this

helpful, and thanks again for the suggestion, and for your appreciation!

Elchanan

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Elchanan, PC Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:50 AM To:

<rawfood > rawfood RE: [Raw

Food] Lupus help?

Hi Tara, I'm curious what has let you to choose fasting with vinegar and

water rather than just water?

Vinegar is basically a mixture of 1 part acetic acid (yes, pure acid) with

19 parts water. Acetic acid is sold to chemical labs in jugs labeled with a

skull-and-crossbones; in this form it is deadly. But reduced to a 5%

solution, commercial organizations are permitted to sell it as " food. "

When you are fasting, your body will cleanse deeply. Cleansing will release

large quantities of acid, among other things, into your system. Your system

will then use alkaline minerals, many also being released during the

cleansing process, to neutralize or at least ameliorate the intensity of the

acid. This is necessary, otherwise the acid would burn your tissue severely

in certain parts of your body, particularly on the way out as urine.

By adding acid to an already hyperacidic biochemistry, you will simply

impede your own cleansing process, and it is possible even to cause harm to

yourself. (This is unlikely unless the quantities of vinegar are large. But

you DO have some symptoms that seem to indicate significant underlying

toxicity and prior damage to your system.)

I have done month+ fasts and know others who have, as well. If you would

like more information about fasting, I am happy to correspond with you.

Also, a dear friend of mine, Dr. Tim Trader, supervises fasts and is

well-known and well-regarded in fasting circles. Tim is a long-term hygienic

raw fooder, naturopath, has a Ph.D. in nutrition, is a fabulous athlete with

extensive formal education in exercise physiology. He is kind, gentle, and

has supervised many, many fasters, He does this privately, not in any kind

of " center, " so I will send his contact information privately. If anyone

else is interested in connecting here, please write to me privately.

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Sans the flavoring, vinegar is 1 part pure acetic to 19 parts water. When

sold as acetic acid to chemistry labs and such, the jug comes labeled with a

skull and crossbones. You get the picture

The human body is an acid-producing, alkaline-seeking " machine. " All of what

we consider " activity, " physical activity/exercise, thinking, feeling,

imagining, eating, digesting, pumping blood, etc., produces acid byproducts.

In general, these must be eliminated as waste. Our body must add alkaline

material to these to neutralize (or at least ameliorate) the acid prior to

removing it. " Alkaline material " means alkaline minerals, the most abundant

of which are calcium and sodium. The more we load our bodies with acid, the

more we leach alkaline minerals, particularly calcium from our lean tissue,

especially bones.

So I typically recommend that people consume the most alkalizing diet they

can, and particularly so for athletes. Hence, my earlier recommendation to

build a program first around sweet fruits, then tender leafy greens

(lettuces), then more acidic fruits.

Vinegar is pure acid diluted in water. Grains and all animal flesh and dairy

foods are very acidifying to our bodies. Nuts and seeds are also somewhat

acidifying.

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Vinegar is a polite marketing name for acetic acid, in a 5% solution. And in

that solution, the government allows companies to call it " food. " Never was,

never will be food. It's just acetic acid, plain and simple. And don't let

flavorings fool you (balsamic, cider, or whatever), a rose by any other name

is still a rose.

The human body is an acid-producing, alkaline-seeking machine. Virtually

EVERYTHING we do -- physical activity, heart pumping, thinking, processing

feelings, etc. produces acid byproducts. This is the nature of our

biochemistry. And cleansing is the body's action, in a sense, to eliminate

excess buildup of acidic toxins. So the LAST thing we need is to pour acid

into the body.

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The vinegar is a bit more problematic, as it is basically acetic acid

diluted in water. As your body cleanses, acid byproducts are released and

carried out, primarily through the urine and breath. (The constant releasing

of toxins through the respiratory system is the real cause of " bad breath. "

That's why it can never be eliminated in most Americans, only covered up,

just like body odor is covered up with perfumed products. ) Your body then

draws upon alkaline minerals -- primarily calcium, and to some extent sodium

and others, to neutralize the acid so it doesn't burn your system. This is a

nonstop process in the general population, and calcium deficiency,

osteoporosis, etc. When you consciously choose to eat pure acid, you work

against yourself a bit. However, once again, compared with the changes you

ARE making, and assuming the quantities of vinegar are small, this can be

tweaked over time. One way to begin is by simply reducing the quantity of

vinegar you use, same with oil. I have found that if I toss the salad well,

a very small quantity of oil-based dressing goes a very long way.