Whole foods Vs. Fractionated Foods Coconut oil

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Hi Mike...

 

some comments below:

 

 

 

 

rawfood , " Mike " <mike@r...> wrote:

> Hi Bob,

>

> Thanks for your reply!

>

> I'd just like to comment on whole foods vs.

> fractionated foods. I understand the points

> you are making. I followed the Doug Graham

> and Herbert Shelton approach for a couple

> years, but I have changed course.

>

> Now I prefer to study the teachings of people

> like Norman Walker,

studied, and probably still own, anything that he wrote..did

the juicing stuff...almost bought a " Norwalk juicer " lol!

I find it ok....much better than SAD,

 

Jay " The Juiceman " Kordish,

only read a liitle of his stuff...

 

> Gabriel Cousens,

 

a " funnier " bent for me...ok..

 

Viktoras Kulvinskas, Ann Wigmore,

> Brian Clement,

ahh...the HHI crowd: yes, spent some time up there, when it was still

in Boston, sometime ~79...had posted that earlier...I think it's a

good foundation re: raw - and I think they overvalue sprouts and

wheatgrass juice. Given that they developed the program in Boston, I

thought it might've been targeted to the polluted " city " crowd. I

very rarely these days drink wheatgrass juice: it still tastes " vile "

to me...gives me that shuddering sensation...and if anything takes

that much getting used to, I don't think it can be very good for me.

 

Jack LaLanne, and others.

familar with him more for his weight-lifting feats....

>

> One thing that makes the people I listed so

> healthy is juice.

I don't know that that's what makes them healthy, and yes, they

drink juice...

 

They make a dicipline of

> drinking fresh raw juice on a daily basis.

>

> After drinking fresh green juice and wheatgrass

> juice on a daily basis for the past year, I've

> never felt better! I'm growing younger and

> healthier each day.

ok...

 

>

> Fresh juice is what helped Norman Walker live

> to be 114 years old in perfect health. Jack

> LaLanne and Jay Kordich are in their 80's and

> 90's in perfect health and juice every day.

> Cousens and Clement are in their 60's in

> perfect health.

>

> I want to look like Jay " The Juiceman " when

> I'm 85 years old! ==>

>

> http://www.aniadesign.com/JayKordich

>

> If I followed the Natural Hygiene guidelines, I

> wouldn't drink juice because it isn't found in

> nature and it's not a whole food.

 

agreed...

>

> That's where Natural Hygiene loses me. I'd rather

> follow the time tested methods of juicing taught

> by Norman Walker rather than the whole foods

> guidelines.

yes, it's a choice...

>

> Norman Walker got it right! He is my hero.

I'll choose Nature...she didn't provide me, or other animals, with a

juicer...

>

> I'll be drinking juice every day of my life, I'm

> not concerned with the whole foods vs. fracinated

> foods because I've experienced that it doesn't

> matter.

 

food choices/dietary decisions can take many generations (sometimes 7

or more, if I remember the research..) to demonstrate whether or not

they are working. I know we're not rats, but they're so frequently

used because of the " short " life cycles...I may go look and see if

there are any longer-term juice results. On second thought, I don't

think so, because having read more of your info, I know that you're

not only a " juicer " - you eat also!! lol!

 

I personally find the " juices " too " concentrated " , like there's just

too much of something...in Wheatgrass juice, I forget what it

is...but there's too much of it....carrot juice - when I drink it

(and yes, I'm versed in all the " correct " Walker combinations..like

#____ carrot and spinach..or carrot and celery..or

carrot/celery/beet/ lol! books are on a shelf somewhere...) it feels

like only part of it is being used, with the rest being expelled:

like my body knows what is " sufficient " and what is " excess " .

 

 

>

> Things like olive oil and coconut oil are the juice

> of coconuts and olives. They are processed below 110

> degrees so they are raw foods. They may be fractionated

> but the health benefits I've experienced far outway

> any potential loss in nutrients.

>

> Here is my time tested approach:

>

> Fresh Green Juice

>

> 1. Is it a whole food? No

>

> 2. Is it raw? Yes

>

> 3. Is is eye-appealing?

>

> Green is my favorite color, but my cooked

> food friends think it's ugly!

>

> 4. Does it smell good?

>

> I love the smell, but my cooked food

> friends say " No Way! "

>

> 5. Does it taste good?

>

> I think it does, but my cooked food

> friends all say " NO! "

>

> 6. Is it found in Nature?

>

> No!

>

> 7. Could I make a meal of it?

>

> Yes, it is my favorite meal!

 

it is not my favorite meal, and never will be, because I always come

up way short on calorie intake...or, that's how it seems to me...

>

> My conclusion?

>

> Drink Raw Vegetable Juice Every Day!

>

 

Each, raw and whole, and juicing are much better than SAD...

like the blind men and the elephant, we're each concentrating upon a

different part of the elephant.

 

One approach is founded upon alignment with Nature, and the other

with man knowing better than Nature/the body.

 

I'll still be choosing alignment with Nature, and I respect your

choice of juicing.

 

 

 

Enjoy the journey!

 

all the best,

 

Bob

 

 

 

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> rawfood , " Bob Farrell " <rjf2@t...> wrote:

> > Hello Mike, Tev and Leslie..

> >

> > I've read several of the references re: coconut oil..

> >

> > I still prefer a much simpler, time-tested approach:

> >

> > 1. Is coconut oil a whole food? No (I'd probably stop right

> here...)