Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Diane King [naturalfitness] Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:24 AM Re: [Rawschool] Lyme Disease/Germ Theory MORE I work with Lyme patients in New Jersey and over the last 5 years have seen literally thousands of them. While the most common drug given for a new infection is antibiotics which would be easy to stop, some of these Lyme patients are on upwards of 18 drugs and have been for years. Oxycontin, prednisone, duragesic patches, IV antibiotics to name a few. It seems unbelievable that people would ingest these poisons at that rate, but they trust their doctors and many don't know what to do (even though they are getting progressively worse and as Nora says the " Lyme " is blamed when it is really the treatment.) Many of them, though, are unable to go cold turkey off of these drugs because they are dependent and the side affects can be horrific. Thanks..Diane _____ Hi Diane, Thanks for sharing your first-hand clinical experience and these details on drugs used, this is such valuable input for us all, in my opinion! Elchanan PS How in the bleep do you get your HTML to come through intact. I can see your formatting clearly, yet when this message from me goes through , it will surely come out " munged. " E -- ------------------------ [ SECURITY NOTICE ] ------------------------ rawfood , rawschool . For your security, vlinfo digitally signed this message on 09 June 2005 at 15:41:43 UTC. Verify this digital signature at http://www.ciphire.com/verify. ------------------- [ CIPHIRE DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] ------------------- Q2lwaGlyZSBTaWcuAVdyYXdmb29kQHlhaG9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbSwgcmF3c2Nob29sQHlha G9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbQB2bGluZm9AZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldABlbWFpbCBib2R5AA0EAAB8AH wAAAABAAAAN2OoQg0EAAASAgACAAIAAgAgWd+jWXfInHvayeGZWK7egaxIx/Ds85ig0C7 EzQ1Fg5gBAIYEpBOTbs87zkSZHhSIvzVVwfRghtV1X2jI/sjxmdF9eyPMU5Ps6UyDDCZg VHCX7cqr/EA8sbg3Yz1ZbwM/i8r1U2lnRW5k --------------------- [ END DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] --------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hello, I came a cross this old post and I would like to clarify a few things. Patients with lyme generally start getting more sick after treatment for a few different reasons, but mostly because of the toxins released when the microbe borrielia and other co-infections are attacked. Borrelia, the contributing factor in lyme disease has the ability to change it's own surface antigens in order to hide from the hosts immune response. The bacteria can also mutate into a cystic form that is impenetrable by most antibiotics. An individuals ability to cope with the disease depends on a variety of factors including previous exposure, heavy metal toxicity, the strain of borrelia (there are 400 strains world wide), and co-infections. Yes, the medicines used to treat lyme are extremely toxic but there are currently few options as most holistic professionals are skeptical and uninformed. There are herbal treatments for the disease but there aren't many holistic practitioners who understand the disease enough to treat it effectively. I am currently on the natural route to cure this disease and it is extremely expensive. There are multiple herbs and adjunct therapies that are needed for improvement. A patient on antibiotics must slowly taper off of them with the use of proper herbs and a strict detox diet. If you are a natural practitioner of medicine I recommend you look into these books: Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections by Stephen Harrod Buhner Lyme Disease and Modern (Paperback) by Dr. QingCai Zhang , Yale Zhang and these websites: http://www.lymeinfo.net/medical.html http://www.neuraltherapy.com/articlesProtocols.asp Thank you, Ashleah rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote: > > Diane King [naturalfitness] Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:24 > AM Re: [Rawschool] Lyme Disease/Germ Theory MORE > > I work with Lyme patients in New Jersey and over the last 5 years have seen > literally thousands of them. While the most common drug given for a new > infection is antibiotics which would be easy to stop, some of these Lyme > patients are on upwards of 18 drugs and have been for years. Oxycontin, > prednisone, duragesic patches, IV antibiotics to name a few. It seems > unbelievable that people would ingest these poisons at that rate, but they > trust their doctors and many don't know what to do (even though they are > getting progressively worse and as Nora says the " Lyme " is blamed when it is > really the treatment.) Many of them, though, are unable to go cold turkey > off of these drugs because they are dependent and the side affects can be > horrific. Thanks..Diane > _____ > Hi Diane, > Thanks for sharing your first-hand clinical experience and these details on > drugs used, this is such valuable input for us all, in my opinion! > Elchanan > > PS How in the bleep do you get your HTML to come through intact. I can > see your formatting clearly, yet when this message from me goes through > , it will surely come out " munged. " > E > > > > -- > ------------------------ [ SECURITY NOTICE ] ------------------------ > rawfood , rawschool > For your security, vlinfo > digitally signed this message on 09 June 2005 at 15:41:43 UTC. > Verify this digital signature at http://www.ciphire.com/verify. > ------------------- [ CIPHIRE DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] ------------------- > Q2lwaGlyZSBTaWcuAVdyYXdmb29kQHlhaG9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbSwgcmF3c2Nob29sQHlha > G9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbQB2bGluZm9AZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldABlbWFpbCBib2R5AA0EAAB8AH > wAAAABAAAAN2OoQg0EAAASAgACAAIAAgAgWd+jWXfInHvayeGZWK7egaxIx/ Ds85ig0C7 > EzQ1Fg5gBAIYEpBOTbs87zkSZHhSIvzVVwfRghtV1X2jI/sjxmdF9eyPMU5Ps6UyDDCZg > VHCX7cqr/EA8sbg3Yz1ZbwM/i8r1U2lnRW5k > --------------------- [ END DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] --------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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