Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Debbie Gypsi at www.aromaticwings.com Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:38 AM Re: [Raw Food] Sharing responsibilities Having been one of " those people " that have used the welfare system etc from a foodstamp standpoint My questions is this... When is the US going to realize that we are so far in debt as a country that some of the long term relief could be in our health system and our welfare system... no not to take away.. but to educate or rather re-educate on how we should be eating.. using foodstamps one is required to go to classes to learn what is healthy and how to buy responsibly with the foodstamps.. altho most just buy junk... But even with this small bit of education it isn't clear.... I have had more education in the past few weeks..months following the raw way of life and these groups then I ever learned as a woman with kids out there trying to feed my family with no man. not that the man has anything to do with it.. but still.. the schools are just now starting to show an interest in the foods our children eat. even tho mine are grown.. I do have grandkids and when I can see the schools blaming parents and the children for " being problem children " I want to scream...it is the food fed in school lunch programs that are not good for the kids.. making them hyper and irritating...and the lower income families buying junk... (ok some don't but most do)... food stamps have a restiction that one can not buy toilet paper and soap etc.. but it doesn't have a restriction on sodas, chips, cakes, cookies, crackers... if we were to restict the processed foods then maybe just maybe one or the other would change.. either the workforce wouldget better because these people want the processed foods and need to earn cash to pay for them.. or people would learn to eat good foods... become healthier hence better health reform.. (maybe) But people are so addicted to these things it would be (probably) like taking a drug away from an addict.. OH MY what a world that would be... everyone going cold turkey at once... heavy sigh./...just speaking from the lower income viewpoint here... _____ Okay, I'm on a light sarcasm roll here ... You see, Debbie, you've got to understand that sodas, chips, cakes, cookies, and crackers all contain essential nutrients not found anywhere else -- very complex, completely indigestible molecules that even bacteria find daunting. In contrast, toilet paper contains no essential nutrients and is considered inedible anyway, so OF COURSE one cannot purchase it using FOOD stamps!!! It's not food, silly!!!! :) I'm sure many of us share a similar view... Elchanan -- ------------------------ [ SECURITY NOTICE ] ------------------------ rawfood , rawschool . For your security, vlinfo digitally signed this message on 07 June 2005 at 15:17:31 UTC. Verify this digital signature at http://www.ciphire.com/verify. ------------------- [ CIPHIRE DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] ------------------- Q2lwaGlyZSBTaWcuAVdyYXdmb29kQHlhaG9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbSwgcmF3c2Nob29sQHlha G9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbQB2bGluZm9AZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldABlbWFpbCBib2R5AIAIAAB8AH wAAAABAAAAi7qlQoAIAAAxAwACAAIAAgAgWd+jWXfInHvayeGZWK7egaxIx/Ds85ig0C7 EzQ1Fg5gBAIYEpBOTbs87zkSZHhSIvzVVwfRghtV1X2jI/sjxmdF9Ub0uwmtlci0uQywG /NbjUs9liixxSjiVNFniA7ZD1XJ7U2lnRW5k --------------------- [ END DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] --------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 hahahaha ok E I will give ya that one... hahahaha.. well you know what I mean... they (the welfare) should consider these things more important and give vouchers for that and restrict the use of food stamps to the better foods... " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote: Okay, I'm on a light sarcasm roll here ... You see, Debbie, you've got to understand that sodas, chips, cakes, cookies, and crackers all contain essential nutrients not found anywhere else -- very complex, completely indigestible molecules that even bacteria find daunting. In contrast, toilet paper contains no essential nutrients and is considered inedible anyway, so OF COURSE one cannot purchase it using FOOD stamps!!! It's not food, silly!!!! :) I'm sure many of us share a similar view... Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 --- " Gypsi at www.aromaticwings.com " <aromatic_wings wrote: > Having been one of " thosepeople " that have used the > welfare system etc from a foodstamp standpoint My > questions is this... When is the US going to realize > that we are so far in debt as a country that some of > the long term relief could be in our health system > and our welfare system... no not to take away.. but > to educate or rather re-educate on how we should be > eating.. using foodstamps one is required to go to > classes to learn what is healthy and how to buy > responsibly with the foodstamps.. altho most just > buy junk... Thank you Gypsy for making such wonderful points. I have been on both ends of this issue. I've recieved food stamps, fed from soup kitchens, worked on organic farms and in natural health food stores. I can attest, as someone who currently has to make $5 last the next 10 days (until payday) that eating well is a luxury! Sure food stamps are accepted at most, if not all, co-op or natural food stores. However, if you're on food stamps, chances are you're on a budget and when you have to " choose " between spending $2 for ONE organic tomato or .79/lb for tomatoes from Walmart, well... in my opinion, it doesn't really become much of a choice. I used to work for a prominent natural food store chain. I remember at one of our staff meetings being told that they exclusively target the affluent neighborhoods for advertisment, store location, etc, because that is where they get their money from. It's not because " rich folks " are more health conscious than " poor folks " ...it's because the " rich people " CAN pay the prices. Even with my employee discount, I couldn't shop there, because I was being paid slightly above minimum wage. As a natural food advocate, I am seeing a disturbing trend where health IS becoming an economic priviledge. Look at all of the health conferences/retreats that are being offered for the low price of a few hundred dollars (just to get through the door). Or the fact that most insurances do not cover alternative health visit. And most won't even let you choose your own physcian (i.e.HMO). It's easy to critiize a young single mother feeding her toddler soda and cheetos, as if she were weak in character and flawed in her principals. I find myself doing it, too. But, how often do we criticize or place judgement upon something like, oh,a suburban family BBQ's where folks are ingesting pounds of dead flesh, cooked food smothered in condimnets (with canola oil base, of course) and a few cans of beer or pints of Kool-Aid? HOw are they contributing to our social ills? Or better yet, how can we advocate and empower others to improve The flaws of our society? Just my 2 cents...can't help it. I have a BA in poli sci;) Isabella What we need to do is be the change we seek and work within our communitites to advocate, empower and deprogram. Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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