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Shari Viger [shavig] Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:27 AM

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Elchanan> ask others to pick up the tab

 

This is a subject that is a thorn in my side! Thank you Elchanan! For our

family we do without health insurance because we believe in being

responsible for our own health and we wouldn't go to the medical community

anyway. What really bothers me is the neighbor that shops at the " case "

store (COSTCO, Sams, etc...) and brings in cases of non-food, poisons. She

is on 12 medications, 150 pounds overweight, depressed, doesn't exercise,

you get the picture.... Yet she gets all her medications, counseling,

housing, food, & general assistance paid for by the government because she

is too depressed to work!!!!! I, on the other hand, watch the way I eat,

exercise every day and get squat. Even when I broke my arm going to work

(slipped in the parking lot debarking the employee bus in the snow! no Labor

& Industry in the parking lot is the law!!).

 

So what is wrong with this picture? Lack of responsibility that is the

problem. Why must I, as a small business owner, pay for someone else's lack

of caring for themselves? My backyard almost literally butts up against

Boeing. They build the 747's here and guess what - Boeing pays no taxes in

our state. Whereas, Joe & I own a one person operation carpet cleaning

business and we are being taxed out of business because we are the income

bracket supporting welfare and state subsidized health care. Some how it

just doesn't seem fair. We are penalized for being healthy and the sick are

rewarded with $$$. We take responsibility for our own health and well

being, why isn't someone subsidizing my food bill? My gym membership? At

least give me a tax credit for what we do.

 

Oh man, I better not go any further - it's only 0430 on Tuesday and I'd hate

to taint my day with all this!!!

 

Thanks for letting me vent - Shari

_____

Shari,

I can hardly stop laughing, I enjoyed your post so much.

 

America's present journey from free enterprise into national socialism began

in earnest with passage of the Federal Reserve Act in December 1913 and the

income tax to support the Federal Reserve debt (aka, the national debt) in

1915. Ever since that time, income redistribution has become ever more

central in government policy.

 

The situation is actually much worse, in my opinion, than you describe. You

pay the tax TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE , not to the US Treasury. The Treasury

borrows all that it spends in new debt from the Federal Reserve, then pays

that money NOT to your neighbor, but to a drug company on her behalf. She is

merely an unwitting participant in the largest and possibly the most

grotesque collection of medical experiments on human subjects in human

history, even going beyond what was done in Auschwitz by Dr. Mengele and his

staff in some cases. So it is a direct transfer of wealth, created by virtue

of your labor and creativity, from you to a drug company that pays almost no

taxes at all.

 

Put this together with my post earlier this morning on Iatrogenic Causes,

and you begin to get a pretty grim picture, unfortunately.

 

OTOH, I believe entirely that each of us manifests and creates his/her own

reality, and I believe you have the power to transform yours. I have

certainly transformed mine in areas similar to those you express. But that

is not subject matter for this venue, way OT, I would think.

 

Thanks again for such great morning entertainment!

Elchanan

 

 

 

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Having been one of " thosepeople " that have used the welfare system etc from a

foodstamp standpoint My questions is this... When is the US going to realize

that we are so far in debt as a country that some of the long term relief could

be in our health system and our welfare system... no not to take away.. but to

educate or rather re-educate on how we should be eating.. using foodstamps one

is required to go to classes to learn what is healthy and how to buy responsibly

with the foodstamps.. altho most just buy junk...

 

But even with this small bit of education it isn't clear.... I have had more

education in the past few weeks..months following the raw way of life and these

groups then I ever learned as a woman with kids out there trying to feed my

family with no man. not that the man has anything to do with it.. but still..

the schools are just now starting to show an interest in the foods our children

eat. even tho mine are grown.. I do have grandkids and when I can see the

schools blaming parents and the children for " being problem children " I want to

scream...it is the food fed in school lunch programs that are not good for the

kids.. making them hyper and irritating...and the lower income families buying

junk... (ok some don't but most do)... food stamps have a restiction that one

can not buy toilet paper and soap etc.. but it doesn't have a restriction on

sodas, chips, cakes, cookies, crackers... if we were to restict the processed

foods then maybe just maybe one or the other would change..

either the workforce wouldget better because these people want the processed

foods and need to earn cash to pay for them.. or people would learn to eat good

foods... become healthier hence better health reform.. (maybe)

 

But people are so addicted to these things it would be (probably) like taking a

drug away from an addict.. OH MY what a world that would be... everyone going

cold turkey at once... heavy sigh./...just speaking from the lower income

viewpoint here...

 

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Shari Viger [shavig] Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:27 AM

<Rawschool > Rawschool Subject:

[Rawschool] sharing resposibilities

 

Elchanan> ask others to pick up the tab

 

This is a subject that is a thorn in my side! Thank you Elchanan! For our

family we do without health insurance because we believe in being

responsible for our own health and we wouldn't go to the medical community

anyway. What really bothers me is the neighbor that shops at the " case "

store (COSTCO, Sams, etc...) and brings in cases of non-food, poisons. She

is on 12 medications, 150 pounds overweight, depressed, doesn't exercise,

you get the picture.... Yet she gets all her medications, counseling,

housing, food, & general assistance paid for by the government because she

is too depressed to work!!!!! I, on the other hand, watch the way I eat,

exercise every day and get squat. Even when I broke my arm going to work

(slipped in the parking lot debarking the employee bus in the snow! no Labor

& Industry in the parking lot is the law!!).

 

So what is wrong with this picture? Lack of responsibility that is the

problem. Why must I, as a small business owner, pay for someone else's lack

of caring for themselves? My backyard almost literally butts up against

Boeing. They build the 747's here and guess what - Boeing pays no taxes in

our state. Whereas, Joe & I own a one person operation carpet cleaning

business and we are being taxed out of business because we are the income

bracket supporting welfare and state subsidized health care. Some how it

just doesn't seem fair. We are penalized for being healthy and the sick are

rewarded with $$$. We take responsibility for our own health and well

being, why isn't someone subsidizing my food bill? My gym membership? At

least give me a tax credit for what we do.

 

Oh man, I better not go any further - it's only 0430 on Tuesday and I'd hate

to taint my day with all this!!!

 

Thanks for letting me vent - Shari

_____

Shari,

I can hardly stop laughing, I enjoyed your post so much.

 

America's present journey from free enterprise into national socialism began

in earnest with passage of the Federal Reserve Act in December 1913 and the

income tax to support the Federal Reserve debt (aka, the national debt) in

1915. Ever since that time, income redistribution has become ever more

central in government policy.

 

The situation is actually much worse, in my opinion, than you describe. You

pay the tax TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE , not to the US Treasury. The Treasury

borrows all that it spends in new debt from the Federal Reserve, then pays

that money NOT to your neighbor, but to a drug company on her behalf. She is

merely an unwitting participant in the largest and possibly the most

grotesque collection of medical experiments on human subjects in human

history, even going beyond what was done in Auschwitz by Dr. Mengele and his

staff in some cases. So it is a direct transfer of wealth, created by virtue

of your labor and creativity, from you to a drug company that pays almost no

taxes at all.

 

Put this together with my post earlier this morning on Iatrogenic Causes,

and you begin to get a pretty grim picture, unfortunately.

 

OTOH, I believe entirely that each of us manifests and creates his/her own

reality, and I believe you have the power to transform yours. I have

certainly transformed mine in areas similar to those you express. But that

is not subject matter for this venue, way OT, I would think.

 

Thanks again for such great morning entertainment!

Elchanan

 

 

 

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