For Valerie From Kay

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rawfood , Valerie Mills Daly <valdaly>

wrote:

> Hi, Kay,

>

> Thanks, Kay, I guess I don't see it as a problem. I'm more of a

cause and effect person, myself. For instance, re: raw foods and

health--I know that when I eat twinkies, the consequences are very

different than when I eat bananas. :-)

> The difficulty I have with the perspective you have shared is that

it tends to lay more guilt on someone who attempts belief, remains

unwell, and blames it on their own lack of belief. I have witnessed

this on more than one occasion, and it is most painful. I agree that

a positive mindset is very important, but beliefs without appropriate

action usually ends up with less than beneficial results, in my

experience. (Sort of like the faith without works is dead idea.)

>

> Probably the most intense experience of this kind of thinking

happened when I was 20, and an eighteen-year-old friend of mine was

struggling with cancer. It had developed and spread very quickly, and

during her last couple of months, well-meaning friends from her

church came periodically to encourage her, and repeatedly said that

if she only had enough faith, she would be healed. These were folks

she had trusted over the years, and so now she was left basically

holding the bag--the reason she was not being healed was her own

fault, because of her lack of faith, because she did not believe

enough. So not only did she have to deal with her own mortality,

pain, anguish of this disease; she died believing it was her own

fault.

>

> So, while I can respect that you have a different point of view on

all of this, I guess I feel like I had to at least once say that I

find it can be a hurtful path to go down. The mind is amazingly

powerful, and I am confident that we are nowhere near accessing the

power that is there. But I do not think I can accept the claims

regarding belief that you espouse without evidence, and so far, I

have no such evidence.

>

> [Deep breath]

>

> Sorry if this seemed too intense; there is nothing personal at all

intended here. I just needed to share my own perspective.

>

> Peace, Valerie

 

 

Kay here;

Cause and effect are part of the 'belief system' Valerie! - i think

you have completely lost the drift of what I was trying to share -

but no worries..x

 

Can you not see that if YOU donot create YOUR own belief about

something then you WILL be acting on what someone elses believes? ..

One can go to the Doctor or THE CHURCH and " give your mind " over to

their " power " , or you can simply take the information and make up

your own mind. Whatever you do, or don't do will have 'Cause and

effect'

Their is no " Guilt " except the " guilt " one creates.

 

Everyone is responsible for their CHOICE (When you speak about Blame)

Sometimes people like to make excuses because they cannot percieve or

understand the bigger picture.

Sometimes we are not ready to take on the challenge of healing

ourselves. Noone else can actually DO that for another, despite good

intentions.

Even when an individual has decided they want to heal themselves -

Sometimes they donot realise that they have not ACTUALLY made that

choice at a deeper level.

 

How sad I feel in this moment that you donot wish to experience the

POWER of your mind. the mind can create some seemingly scary

scenarios - oh yes! - i have been 'there' so many times! But for me

it 'drives' myself on to KNOW more...

If you are fearful of your mind then you will likely hand your

control over to another - and what?! - put yourself under the power

of their mind?! - Phew! - they may have some way out ideas going on -

Doesnt sound very " safe " to me?!

 

Ever heard that well known line:

" Face the fear and do it anyway "

 

Good Luck - i hold you in my loving prayers.xx