Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Hi Rich I can remember a time circa 1970 where I was attending a wedding (Jewish). I was at the time a practicing vegetarian and when we sat down to eat I made it clear that I only would eat certain foods. 35 years have passed and I still and I still think about my actions. What would Jesus have done? Rich: He would have only eaten certain foods. In this day and age it's more serviceful to be a raw vegan. You remember a small detail from 35 years ago? I don't. If you remember something like that from that long ago you must still be suffering from your decision not to stick with a vegetarian diet. You can try to self-justify all you want, but you're obviously upset with yourself for not staying with your diet, else, why would you remember such a thing? That's a huge problem among people, strongly remembering minor details from the past. It keeps them from clearing space for growth towards perfection in the present. People don't recognize this consciously, if they thought about it, they would probably think it's a sign of strength, to remember minor hurts in life so clearly. It's not a strength but a weakness in the sense that these minor things keep someone from growing in the present. I have no problem not eating certain foods at an occasion, it's just food, I'm not going to starve. I can eat wherever. If they have something there I can eat fine, if not, I can wait till later. I'm there for the company. People obviously overstress food at family or friends gathering. If you observe them you can see how they cling to the food rather than more loving behavior towards the people around them. You can see how they'd rather dive into a cookie than learn how to love their neighbor or family member more. I'll converse with you some but I'm also going to get selfishly high on this addictive food at the same time so I don't have to deal with love too much is the behavior here. It feels painful for humans to love more so they'd rather slow that process down and addictive food or overeating is an easy way to do that. God gave that option to his little children. But it's a hard issue for people, like what I read in your next paragraphs. It really seems that they're coming from a place of love and we feel it's godlike to share in that love and so we justify eating anything on that grounds. It's still wrong, we're not taking our highest moral ground, we're taking the road of compromise. God doesn't compromise with me in my life, so I don't sound very compromising in my speech. That's okay, I'm sure I'll mellow with age but I'll still be doing what I believe is right, a raw, vegan diet. But I won't talk like I do now about it. This is just a stage for me to tear through so I can get to the next level, or circle in TUB terms. I have to go through my stages to perfection even though I recognize that don't come across as very loving to others. There's a lot that's not likeable about my stages to perfection to others, I doubt if it could be any other way. I'll be happier down the road when I come across better to people. I think God made the process this way so that you don't want to start over by going backwards in his will. My ability to communicate with people is so much greater on a raw vegan diet that I'm better off staying with it in all circumstances. Food obviously doesn't affect you in God's will like it affects me. But you wouldn't remember such a minor incident from so long ago unless you rue that fact that you decided not to live up to your diet standards, somewhere inside. The confusion of food for love is something to demonstrate against, not participate in the error. Someone: After reading the UB I made a vow that if I was ever invited to any function I would eat everything at the table. Three weeks ago I was invited to play golf at this local country club, at the turn the three people I was paired with ordered hot dogs, so I also ordered one. It was big and juicy and tasted heavenly, after the match we all met in the clubhouse for food and drinks. Rich: Taste doesn't justify killing, and if you're really clear with your tastebuds you'll realize that meat doesn't really taste all that good, it has qualities to it that keep it from going down easily for one thing. Someone: I was at table with 7 others, we all ordered steaks with all the trimmings, potatoes with gravy . I suppose this was one of the best meals of dead animal carcass I ever had. Oh I forgot I had a three ice cream banana split for dessert. My God do those rich country clubbers eat good. Rich: No they don't. But let the children play, I have nothing against it. It's the way the simple human expresses his power, it's his understanding of living in the image of God. And the kind God isn't going to have anything against it for now. Someone: When I am invited to sup with someone there is nothing that I will not eat. At our house we rarely eat meat or process foods, so when the opportunity comes up I dig in. Umm Yummy Yummy. Rich: I don't kill myself softly for others, that's not a high expression of love, like God wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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