The Physical and the Mental

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------ On 5/2/05, Jeff wrote ------

 

Hi Rich. You misunderstood. I mix everything together and eat out of

the pan. The only difference really is that I boil it. Raw oatmeal

wouldn't be very paletable.

 

Rich: If it's not edible raw then it's probably not meant for the

human species. The other animals only eat a handful of things. Man

with his roving mind wants to try to eat everything on the planet. I

don't eat any grains like oatmeal, I don't eat stalks of wheat.

Wheat and grain are just not really edible raw so I don't bother with

them. I think grains are mostly meant for birds. All the nutrition

I need is in produce, which is what I eat.

 

Jeff: I thought you knew everyone who switches to raw food goes

through a

detoxifying phase of some sort?

 

Rich: Of course, I know that. I've read about it much on raw food

forums. My own detox has been more mental than physical, but I've

had some physical detox too. Like I remember when I first tried to

go raw a long time ago my urine came out darker for awhile I

believe. And the cravings for things besides raw plant food remains

strong and mentally very tricky for quite a while.

 

I just had a conversation with someone last night at a bus stop about

the addictiveness of cheese.

 

Jeff: Some people experience headaches and

nausea or rapid weight loss like I did.

 

Rich: And much worse symtoms too from what I've read. I'm fortunate

that mentally I'm prepared for this diet so the physical detox hasn't

been all that bad. Switching over from the Standard American Diet

(the SAD diet) to raw vegan is huge physical and mental adjustment

and if your mentality isn't ready for it, then you may not want to

try it. There can be an overwhelming amount of physical change to go

through if the mentality isn't ready for it. A change like that

could be physically dangerous for someone.

 

Jeff: I remained on the diet for

two years.

 

Rich: You weren't ready, no big deal. I expect to clean up any

mental errors in my lack of living God's will in my life and be

physically perfectly healthy in say two years. I have four and a

half months raw now.

 

Jeff: Did you learn anything from that raw food website you

spent time on or were you to busy being condescending?

 

Rich: I learned much and I still visit the raw food websites

occasionally but not much. They're mostly into the physical aspects

of this diet and I'm much more into the mental, God aspects of this

diet. You call me condescending, but truth is truth. UB, Annas

spoke no words of rebuke to his steward, but Jesus addressed him,

saying, " My friend, if I have spoken evil, bear witness against the

evil; but if I have spoken the truth, why, then, should you smite

me? "

 

Condescend - to deal with people in a patronizingly superior manner.

I don't think I do this at all, but I can certainly see how someone

could take what I say in this manner. But I'm filled with happiness

about this diet and I'm going to talk about it if it comes up. And

the harder the terms I do that in, the better as far as I'm

concerned. I see no reason to baby people, I see no real growth in

that for myself or others. It's brave to get out there on a limb and

state your glory. It strengthens my own life to do so. To talk like

I am right now. People are powerful creatures, but they don't really

want to know or see that, because then they would have to live up to

the power that's in themselves. It's much easier to hide and think

I'm lowly, it even feels humble doing that. Well, it's not. One of

the best lessons I learned from TUB is that Jesus talked about his

glory and humility, they're counterparts, not opposites.

 

" You are the light of the world. A city set upon a hill cannot be

hid. Neither do men light a candle and put it under a bushel, but on

a candlestick; and it gives Page 1571 light to all who are in the

house. Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good

works and be led to glorify your Father who is in heaven. "

 

I had no idea about finding my own glory until I read about how Jesus

acted. I plan to let my little light shine as best I can, no reason

not to, there's nothing to be afraid of. People need other people to

give it their best, that's what helps them most. There's not that

much a human can do for another human anyway so you might as well

shine as bright as possible. My best is only going to help people a

little anyway.

 

Jeff: Certainly I think sticking with raw food takes strength of

character.

If God is your source then great, but your assertion only a person of

your stature and spiritual endowment is capable is untrue.

 

Rich: I never said that but that's your interpretion of what I

said. I have my path to perfection and I know it will work, but I'm

sure there's many paths, many of which may not follow what I do at

all. As far as raw food goes, there's many different types of raw

foodists too. A few are very successful at their style of raw vegan

eating. Most don't make it though so I'm just putting forth what

works for me especially from the all-important mental outlook. Even

those who have been raw vegan for a decade or more leave the diet

because they never fully accomplished the mental work necessary to

keep the diet, and may have developed some physical problems.

 

Jeff: You wrote: Rich: Imho, no one needs to be 190 lbs.

 

My comment:

 

If I weighed 150lbs at 6'3 " I'd be skinny as a rail!

 

Rich: 6'3 " is pretty tall, maybe 190 lbs. is appropriate, just

sounds a little too heavy though.

 

Jeff: You wrote: Rich: Again from a time and health standpoint, I

think God has it

set up that I can get all the nutrition I need from eating the food

rather than using supplements of any kind.

 

My comment:

 

Absolutely! Supplements like vitamins and minerals are a waste of

money. Much better to get the real thing.

 

Rich: But you were talking about MSM or something.

 

Jeff: When I cited you as being odd I purposely left it hanging

(...) else

I would be calling the kettle black.

 

Rich: How humble of you. I find it rather funny to advocate

something like a raw food diet or sex for procreation when I've been

such a miscreant my whole life. But if I make these policies strong

in my life I'll forget about my past and forgive myself fully, which

is a prerequisite to fully being able to live this lifestyle.