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From my other favorite forum, www.ubron.org

 

------ On 4/30/05, Mel wrote ------

 

I have been asking friends, family and aquaintences, how many oeple

in this world, would become vegetarian if they had to raise and

BUTCHER their own meat.

 

Rich: Exactly, I know I wouldn't kill my own animals. I'd be forced

into vegetarianism if that were the case. I'm not going to chase

down an animal and kill it in order to eat. I don't have the energy

for it. I'm going to walk over to that vegetable and eat it. Plus,

if I look at the animal and know it doesn't want to be killed, why

would I kill it?

 

Meat eating is a remnant of laziness in society. People don't want

to think about these things. They just want to do what they want to

do because it <i>feels</i> okay. And they're really conditioned and

tricked into believing meat tastes good when it really doesn't. A

person's mentality is just conditioned to believe it does so they

think it does. Again, the <i>think</i> so and so it must be.

 

Mel: the quick I answer I get is 75% ??

 

How many of you would quit meat if you had to kill it, disembowel it,

cut it up and THEN prepare it into food.

 

Next month a group of us are going camping over Memorial day and we

are going to kill and clean a bunch of chickens I have been raising

and cook them for the camp out.

 

Rich: I don't think we have to kill animals to prove this, but it's

not the worst idea I've ever heard of. I hope you enjoyed raising

them. I wouldn't raise any animals, I'd set them free, like they'd

like to be. If they have no place in the wild, then they're better

off dead. I don't have any pets, nor would I want one. It's subtly

cruel to leave a dog lying around the house all day or keeping a bird

in a cage. But only the sensitive, astute mortal could figure this

out.

 

Mel: We are going to bring the birds live in cages and then I will

be

teaching/showing how gruesome butchering really is.

 

and messy.

 

Rich: I know there's no reason to do a wrong to prove a right. It's

like the ends don't always justify the means, or two wrongs don't

make a right. But like I said earlier, I pretty much agree with what

you're trying to do. A demonstrative display like this isn't always

offensive, depends on the circumstances. And people in this day and

age aren't going to get it that they shouldn't be killing animals so

a display like this might do more good than harm.

 

Mel: just curious, how many people here have EVER raised and killed

their

own meat?

 

Rich: Not one, nor do they want to think about that fact.

 

Mel: remember Adam and Eve ate fruits and nuts.

 

mel

 

Rich: P.834 - §5 The Adamic children did not take milk from animals

when they ceased to nurse the mother's breast at one year of age. Eve

had access to the milk of a great variety of nuts and to the juices

of many fruits, and knowing full well the chemistry and energy of

these foods, she suitably combined them for the nourishment of her

children until the appearance of teeth.

P.834 - §6 While cooking was universally employed outside of the

immediate Adamic sector of Eden, there was no cooking in Adam's

household. They found their foods--fruits, nuts, and cereals--ready

prepared as they ripened. They ate once a day, shortly after

noontime. Adam and Eve also imbibed " light and energy " direct from

certain space emanations in conjunction with the ministry of the tree

of life.

P.850 - §3 Up to the time of leaving the first garden, Adam and his

family had always subsisted on fruits, cereals, and nuts. On the way

to Mesopotamia they had, for the first time, partaken of herbs and

vegetables. The eating of meat was early introduced into the second

garden, but Adam and Eve never partook of flesh as a part of their

regular diet. Neither did Adamson nor Eveson nor the other children

of the first generation of the first garden become flesh eaters.

 

Few, if any people on here really feel like following this, much

easier to just ignore.

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