Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 From my other favorite forum, www.ubron.org ------ On 4/30/05, Mel wrote ------ I have been asking friends, family and aquaintences, how many oeple in this world, would become vegetarian if they had to raise and BUTCHER their own meat. Rich: Exactly, I know I wouldn't kill my own animals. I'd be forced into vegetarianism if that were the case. I'm not going to chase down an animal and kill it in order to eat. I don't have the energy for it. I'm going to walk over to that vegetable and eat it. Plus, if I look at the animal and know it doesn't want to be killed, why would I kill it? Meat eating is a remnant of laziness in society. People don't want to think about these things. They just want to do what they want to do because it <i>feels</i> okay. And they're really conditioned and tricked into believing meat tastes good when it really doesn't. A person's mentality is just conditioned to believe it does so they think it does. Again, the <i>think</i> so and so it must be. Mel: the quick I answer I get is 75% ?? How many of you would quit meat if you had to kill it, disembowel it, cut it up and THEN prepare it into food. Next month a group of us are going camping over Memorial day and we are going to kill and clean a bunch of chickens I have been raising and cook them for the camp out. Rich: I don't think we have to kill animals to prove this, but it's not the worst idea I've ever heard of. I hope you enjoyed raising them. I wouldn't raise any animals, I'd set them free, like they'd like to be. If they have no place in the wild, then they're better off dead. I don't have any pets, nor would I want one. It's subtly cruel to leave a dog lying around the house all day or keeping a bird in a cage. But only the sensitive, astute mortal could figure this out. Mel: We are going to bring the birds live in cages and then I will be teaching/showing how gruesome butchering really is. and messy. Rich: I know there's no reason to do a wrong to prove a right. It's like the ends don't always justify the means, or two wrongs don't make a right. But like I said earlier, I pretty much agree with what you're trying to do. A demonstrative display like this isn't always offensive, depends on the circumstances. And people in this day and age aren't going to get it that they shouldn't be killing animals so a display like this might do more good than harm. Mel: just curious, how many people here have EVER raised and killed their own meat? Rich: Not one, nor do they want to think about that fact. Mel: remember Adam and Eve ate fruits and nuts. mel Rich: P.834 - §5 The Adamic children did not take milk from animals when they ceased to nurse the mother's breast at one year of age. Eve had access to the milk of a great variety of nuts and to the juices of many fruits, and knowing full well the chemistry and energy of these foods, she suitably combined them for the nourishment of her children until the appearance of teeth. P.834 - §6 While cooking was universally employed outside of the immediate Adamic sector of Eden, there was no cooking in Adam's household. They found their foods--fruits, nuts, and cereals--ready prepared as they ripened. They ate once a day, shortly after noontime. Adam and Eve also imbibed " light and energy " direct from certain space emanations in conjunction with the ministry of the tree of life. P.850 - §3 Up to the time of leaving the first garden, Adam and his family had always subsisted on fruits, cereals, and nuts. On the way to Mesopotamia they had, for the first time, partaken of herbs and vegetables. The eating of meat was early introduced into the second garden, but Adam and Eve never partook of flesh as a part of their regular diet. Neither did Adamson nor Eveson nor the other children of the first generation of the first garden become flesh eaters. Few, if any people on here really feel like following this, much easier to just ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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