Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 At the request of both Kay and Laurie Masters, I forwarded Kay's recent messages to Laurie. Laurie responds with the following, relevant for all those in the group who are having challenges with binging and so forth. There can be both physical and emotional causes for binging, craving, etc., but by far the most common physical cause is just plain undereating. For all of you who have been taught to construct your program around greens and vegetables (salads, green juices), this message is a MUST READ. You simply cannot, under any reasonable meal scenario, get the calories you need by emphasizing vegetables, Once you realize this, you basically have 2 RF choices for calorie sources: fruits (melons, bananas, dates, figs, grapes, apples, pears, nectarines, peaches, plums, berries, citrus, kiwi, etc.) or fats (nuts, seeds, oils, avocado). After that, the next choice is cooked food, usually starch doused in fat (oil, cheese, sauce). Elchanan _____ To Kay, hi! I am wondering whether you have had a chance to go onto Nutridiary and log what you are eating. I have some thoughts/observations about what you wrote on April 18th. My calorie estimates are just a guess...based upon your input for that date, below: ________________________ 1 green juice Maybe 200 calories?? 1x6 banana 100 calories each smoothie with 6 large strawberries 6 calories each (636 total) 1 pear 100 calories 1 green bowl green leaves+lettuce 25 calories + 1 tomato 25 calories+ 1/3rd avocado 175 calories 1 apple 80 calories Today I was thinking of omitting the salad (because I don't like it without avocado, but reducing fat intake to minimum) And replacing it with a 8 banana smoothie with possibly grapes and a green juice near it(I kinda " know " I will want some greens around that) ________________________ I feel grateful and also really excited for you for the way you have trusted my advice and started embracing bananas. Now, as you feel comfortable doing so, I suggest you increase your bananas or other fruit quite a bit more. At about 1250 calories, the diet you describe above is WAY too little food, especially if you are getting any exercise (are you?? Sure hope so!!) I want to point out something: That the salad without avocado is probably only about 50 calories...surely not more than 100 even if you eat a whole large head of lettuce along with that tomato. Note that this is the same amount of calories in 1/2 - 1 banana. So your idea about replacing the salad with an 8-banana smoothie plus grapes is an excellent one. I suggest, however, eating both the salad and the extra smoothie and eliminating the green juice in the morning. If you do these things, you will probably end up with about 2,000 calories, which sounds a lot more healthful to me!! This is REALLY IMPORTANT! I see this all the time. People think that because a salad is large in volume that it gives them calories. It does not! Hunger and binge eating are almost inevitable if you try to base your diet around greens/vegetables. -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (2488 characters) on 21 April 2005 at 14:22:00 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAAIt2dCuAkAAKYCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X2FHy tdtIGLDlzR99BF2jurvflRC1LNTuw0TZWaJud8bg== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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