Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 rawfood On Behalf Of korangeli Saturday, April 16, 2005 6:58 AM [Raw Food] On Everything! - and kiwis Kay writes: I just wanted to throw in a simple question; I am over here in U.K, having had also a rather long break from a 100% rawfood diet. Currently I am 'sitting' in an " acid bath " and preparing for a fast in approx 1 month's time. I am a sensitive individual with an exascerbated gut issue (which I am not intending to touch on here)I really dont get on that well with english fruit (or just england really!) I tend to live by oranges in the winter and peaches by summer. We rarely see a mango worth eating (I eat 100% organic which limits variety even further)and quite frankly the fruit season begins in July and ends in September (and you still rarely see a mango!) Leslie writes: I think that Kay in England brings up an interesting question regarding this diet--how are folks supposed to live primarily on fruit in climates such as this where the selection of fruit is naturally pretty limited? This does not seem to be a natural way to eat in this climate & one is forced to buy expensive produce that is shipped in from far away. any thoughts? how do folks eat this way in places like Alaska?! _____ Hi Kay, Leslie, and all, Great questions! I see at least two topics here, food availability and money. FOOD AVAILABILITY (I encourage those interested in this topic to read my post sent earlier today, subject line: " Transitioning: Body composition " .) I have heard Doug and Rozi say on more than one occasion that eating a high-fruit RF diet in the UK can get pretty boring, so I know it is so. If anyone on earth can find fruit under almost any circumstances, that person is Doug Graham! I suggest that we begin by reminding ourselves that sweet fruits are at the heart of our program. They contain the water, oxygen, fuel, and soluble fiber we need, they are very alkalizing, and they are very low in protein, fat, starch, and insoluble fiber, all of which we need only in limited quantities. So sweet fruits match well to our nutrient needs. One reason some of us choose to build our program around a base of bananas (that may not sound quite right, but you know what I mean is that they are available year-round in most locations. I believe this is generally the case in the UK. Even if they are not on the shelf, in most stores, if you ask them to order you a case, they generally will. I realize one can tire of eating bananas, but at least it's a beginning. A medium banana provides about 100 calories. I have also written a fair amount about dates. Like bananas, dates are another sweet fruit, capable of being eaten as a primary dietary staple. Depending upon the variety, just 8 or 10 dates per day brings in 200-400 calories. In the U.S., the date harvest typically runs from sometime in August through September, give or take a bit each year. This will differ a bit in every locale, and of course shift 6 months in the southern hemisphere. Now Doug Graham typically only eats dates during this brief period, this is when they are truly fresh. However, my own experience has been that dates are the one food I CAN store in good condition, without freezing, if I do it thoughtfully. The only real requirement is that I have a source from which I can purchase the dates, never having been steamed, frozen, or dehydrated, in excellent condition. (If anyone wants a repost on storing dates, please let me know.) I find that when I eat these two fruits in decent quantities on a daily basis, I'm in pretty good shape, regardless of the rest of the fruit selection...but please read on. MONEY: PERCEIVING FOOD AS AN INVESTMENT I have heard and read many comments from people that organic food is expensive, fruit is expensive, etc. I have never sat down and actually calculated the cost-per-calorie of my food. I suppose that might be an interesting exercise one day. Instead, as I began to realize what I was no longer spending in other areas, I began to change my perception: I no longer think of buying food as a cost of living, but rather as a core, mandatory investment in myself and in my success. I no longer spend money on: - Practitioners, except in the event of trauma (did occur in 2003) - Drugs (prescription or over-the-counter) or treatments - Personal hygiene products (soaps, shampoos, deodorants, toothpastes, etc.), except for razor blades, tooth brushes, and dental floss - Laundry and household cleaning supplies - Gasoline to drive to all the places where I used to purchase the foregoing I now spend almost nothing, in comparison with the past, on: - Paper products (paper towels, toilet paper, tissues) - Trash products (trash bags and the like) - other things I can't think of at the moment I now have full use of my time, energy, and talents. I no longer lose 1000+ hours per year due to illness, tiredness, lethargy, depression, " digestive coma, " etc. I sleep well, my moods are steady, my attitude consistently positive, my demeanor constructive and creative, all day and virtually every day. (Well, I sleep at night.) My mind is clear and focused, my memory sharp. (Pardon me, what did you just say? In light of all these benefits from putting only the highest quality foods I can find into my body, I seems almost inconceivable to me that I would choose to do anything else. I cannot even imagine food prices that would ever compare, even remotely, with all these benefits. Therefore, several years ago, I made a conscious and very mindful decision to spend whatever I need and wish on food, to make this one of the two or three highest spending priorities in my life, now and always. I have never found any reason, even during times of limited financial resources, to question this decision for a moment. Best to all, Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (4779 characters) on 17 April 2005 at 00:28:18 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. 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Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Hello everyone - I wanted to reply as we are doing the raw thing in England and enjoying it - can't say different cos that's how it is - organic is difficult and VERY expensive here but we both feel very well on raw foods here with lots of variety - saving on lots of other things we don't need now as Elchanan said. Love Lynne > Kay writes: > I just wanted to throw in a simple question; > I am over here in U.K, having had also a rather long break from a 100% > rawfood diet. Currently I am 'sitting' in an " acid bath " and preparing for a > fast in approx 1 month's time. > > I am a sensitive individual with an exascerbated gut issue (which I am not > intending to touch on here)I really dont get on that well with english fruit > (or just england really!) > > I tend to live by oranges in the winter and peaches by summer. We rarely see > a mango worth eating (I eat 100% organic which limits variety even > further)and quite frankly the fruit season begins in July and ends in > September (and you still rarely see a mango!) > > Leslie writes: > I think that Kay in England brings up an interesting question regarding this > diet--how are folks supposed to live primarily on fruit in climates such as > this where the selection of fruit is naturally pretty limited? This does not > seem to be a natural way to eat in this climate & one is forced to buy > expensive produce that is shipped in from far away. > > any thoughts? how do folks eat this way in places like Alaska?! > _____ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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