RE: Salt, salty taste [s]

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Colleen Rivera [colleenrachelle] Wednesday,

April 13, 2005 5:10 AM <rawfood >

rawfood Re: [Raw Food] salty taste

 

Just wanted to say that I am following this thread with great interest...

lots of food for thought!!!! I always figured that table salt is not good

for you, but it seems to me that sea salt or earth salt would be a natural

provision... I see that there is great disagreement on this topic but want

to encourage those taking part in this conversation with the knowledge that

no matter if consensus is reached -- you have certainly made others

consider different points of view and given them a starting point to

reevaluate the role of salt in a healthy diet!

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Just to refresh, that salty taste while consuming no salt is indeed the body

eliminating salt consumed in the past and store in brine, primarily under

the skin.

 

When we eat salt, the body begins to eliminate the salt immediately.

However, because salt is highly caustic and corrosive, it can only be safely

removed at a slow pace. Any excess salt is diluted in a sort of brine and

stored in he least damaging location(s) the body can find, usually under the

skin. To dilute the salt, the body must draw water from the cells in general

and from various organs and tissues in particular. This is directly causal

to increases in blood pressure and/or compensating increases in heart load,

among other deleterious effects.

 

The moment you cease consuming salt, your body begins eliminating this

brine. Over time, you will likely see your skin improve as a result.

Elimination occurs primarily via the urine, but can also occur secondarily

through the mouth, particularly if you spit out the salty material.

 

I have personally experienced this elimination of salt via the mouth in a

remarkable way while fasting. I used to eat amazing quantities of salt.

During a couple of long fasts, my body began to hypersalivate, and the

saliva produced in my mouth was thick, acidic, and VERY salty. It also

smelled horrible, to the point where I almost threw up several times just

from the smell. I realized that my best choice was to get this material out

of my body right away. so I found myself spitting this stuff into a cup at

the rate of multiple spits per minute, in other words, almost continuously,

on a 24-hour clock. Needless to say, I was not sleeping much during these

days. But all that material is out of my body forever, and I am forever

grateful.

 

If you were lost on the ocean and drank nothing but sea water, you would die

of dehydration (if you did not die of exposure first). Although there are a

few rare stories/reports to the contrary, this is the overwhelming of

seafaring individuals throughout the millennia.

 

Salt in any living organism demands water; in other words, the organism MUST

put the salt into a solution in order to do anything at all with the salt.

And in animals, that solution must be sufficiently diluted so that the salt

does not harm the organism. The obvious implication is that salt, qua salt,

is inherently dehydrating to any organism that does not actually use or

metabolize the salt in some way.

 

I haven't read all the recent salt posts carefully, as this topic was

covered thoroughly some weeks ago, but I recall seeing some comments about

the body using salt when no water is present. This is biochemical

nonscience. The body does not metabolize rock, the salt MUST be in solution

in water (whether in blood or in some other form of water) in order to be

used in any way, even if only to transport the salt back out of the body.

 

Mammals, and animals in general, DO need sodium and chloride ions, but in

VERY different quantities (lots of sodium, relatively little chloride), and

they do NOT process salt (sodium chloride, or NaCl), they merely eliminate

it. There really isn't much to debate about this from the perspective of

biochemistry or physiology. The only " discussions " on the topic occur in the

context of the commercial pseudoscience called " nutritional science. "

 

Every salt (sodium chloride) molecule consists of exactly one sodium atom

and one chlorine atom. But we need more sodium than chloride. Therefore, if

our bodies were actually to use salt as a source of sodium and chloride, we

would end up with a massive excess of chlorine bleach in our bodies, and

very quickly given the present rate of salt consumption by most people. I

cannot imagine people require much explanation regarding the effect of such

a bleach buildup in the body.

 

There is much more basic science, drawn from physics and chemistry, about

the relationship between salt and water that applies to human/animal

physiology. This information deals with the effect of salt on the weight,

surface tension specific heat, etc. of water. But I will not go into that

technical depth here, other than to say that all such information of which I

am aware affirms that salt is overtly harmful to our organism.

 

Finally, I have request, directed to only a few members of this group. We

can all write of our experiences, and these writings all make wonderful

sharing topics. But for those who really have little or no science

background, I wonder whether you would be willing to focus on your

experiences, or otherwise to post questions or speculations, rather than

strong statements. Anyway, that is my request, for those to whom it may

apply.

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

 

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Thanks for your posts, Elchanan.

 

I have not followed the salt discussions closely. In reading back through

the posts, there is some disagreement on the topic.

 

My family had switched from table salt to sea salt some years ago. When I

went raw 4 months ago, I found that I rarely use salt. I use it in some

recipies and never add it directly to any foods. I imagine that I am

consuming 1-2 teaspoons of salt per week. Considering that you call salt

" causic " , would this small quantity still be harmful? In your opinion, am I

best to eliminate all salt, 100%?

 

 

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