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Hi Colleen

 

What wonderful commitments you and Adam have made together, how uncommon and

refreshing it is for me to see your personal list of DOs and DON'Ts. I see

that you have a couple of posts, let's just take your questions as they

come. There are, of course, many prior posts in this group that you may find

helpful, but I'm not certain how easily one may search through such things.

Elchanan

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Colleen writes:

 

Things I'm learning more about:

*not yelling or speaking ugliness -- :-(

_____

If I may, I'd like to share and observation and suggestion on this. Instead

of describing what you do NOT want, or what you want to " get rid of, "

perhaps focus instead on what you DO want. For example, " speaking calmly,

with focus, presence, and lovingkindness. " Of course you would express this

in your own words, mine are just for the sake of an example.

_____

Colleen asks:

 

I have a bunch of questions right off the bat... first, how long will we be

dealing with detox symptoms (headache, diarrhea, dizziness)? I'm pretty sure

the first week will be hard -- how long before we're all cleaned out and

starting to feel the benefits of living foods? We're doing 100% raw as a 30

day trial -- is that enough time to start feeling right?

_____

 

I suggest dropping the word " detox " from your vocabulary, right off the bat.

Instead, I encourage you to consider a more positive, uplifting approach,

one that you can hold and affirm for the rest of your life. Whenever you

encounter some physical substance that is not a match for your body, your

body will immediately begin to eliminate or at least isolate that substance.

Right now, some such substances are already present inside you. Once those

are out, from time to time you may encounter additional substances, in the

air, water, etc., You body is always working 24x7 to cleanse itself. And so

that is the term I suggest, cleansing, simply because it is accurate and, at

least for me, positive and pleasing to say and hear.

 

Philosophy and language aside, your body will cleanse legacy toxins to

whatever extent you provide it with the raw materials and rest it needs to

do so.

 

- By " legacy toxins, " I mean those accumulated during your past endeavors.

 

- By " raw materials, " I mean water, oxygen, and other nutrients -- fuel

(simple sugar), soluble/digestible fiber, protein, fat, vitamins, minerals,

and so forth, all in the forms and quantities that match your biological

needs,

 

- By " rest, " I mean not only rest and sleep in the typical sense, but also

physiological rest. For example, as you learn to eat better and better, the

digestive load on your system will decrease while the incoming usable

resources increase. This combination of events provides the perfect

combination not only for cleansing, on which so many have been taught to

focus their attention, but also on rebuilding and replenishing every part of

you. And this process will continue for as long as it takes for your system

to become " clean. "

 

There are things you can do to speed up or slow down the cleansing and

rebuilding process. For example, you can speed up the process by fasting,

but I do not recommend fasting past the second or third month of a

pregnancy, nor while you are breast feeding. So that may have to wait

awhile. Similarly, you can slow down the process by eating and living " less

cleanly, " quite literally by continuing to eat some less healthy foods. Many

people call this " transitioning. "

 

One thing to consider and be self-aware of is the emotional side of

cleansing and rebuilding. Most of our self-limiting habits, whether they

involve eating or other activities, arise to meet some emotional need(s).

When we begin to cleanse in any way (through RF, emotional growth, energy

work, etc.), we begin to raise one facet of ourselves a bit " above " the

others, at least for a time. At this point, we can either raise all the

other facets, or we can find the one area of improvement very difficult to

sustain. So you may experience many opportunities for personal growth as you

progress.

 

And I encourage you to perceive anything that comes up through such a

positive lens, as an opportunity, not as a problem or obstacle.

 

Finally, continue to ask questions -- particularly those questions you may

feel a little " funny " about asking. People will always respond!

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Colleen asks:

 

Second, I have a 2 year old daughter, how can I make this transition as easy

on her as possible? I am still breastfeeding her, so that will ease things

for her, but should I continue to give her milk, etc? (Our milk is store

milk, not raw)

_____

 

In my opinion and experience, most people succeed best with RF when they

move forward easily, with self-acceptance, allowing themselves to embrace

new things that arise. In contrast, people often feel challenged with they

attempt to use force to create change.

 

For most people, the most common form of force sounds like this: " No. " It

doesn't matter who is saying " no. " In fact, the most common source of " no "

for most people comes from themselves, as they try and " get rid of "

something or " give up " something. The things we wish to " get rid of " or

" give up " are in our lives for a reason, they have served some constructive

purpose at some time in our past. So in order to move forward, we must

typically either replace the patterns with new patterns that serve us

better, and/or we must experience the growth so that the underlying need

itself shifts (or both).

 

WRT your 2-year-old, I am guessing that SHE may be at an age where she is

learning to say " no. " ???? :):):):) In other words, she may be exploring

her own autonomy in great depth for awhile. And given what I've read about

your goals for parenting and communicating, I imagine you wish for her to

explore to heart's content, subject only to constraints to ensure safety.

 

Remember that you and Adam are choosing this new path, your daughter may or

may not fully comprehend or choose to " go with the program. " And your

" kamikaze " strategy may or may not suit her.

 

Therefore, I suggest that you approach her from a place of invitation

without ANY sense of demands, requirements, or expectations, offering her

all kinds of wonderful things, yet continuing to allow her self-expression

and choice. Faith and patience will serve you far more powerfully than

force, willfulness, and the like.

 

One helpful strategy is to learn about things that might appeal to her. For

example, earlier today I spoke by phone with someone else in this group.

This mother has a young child who loves fruit but also happens to love cake

and doughnuts. We both agreed that fighting with her over the cake and

doughnuts is unlikely to prove constructive. So I suggested that the family

purchase its first full-size box of fresh, wonderful organic dates. (There

has been a lot of discussion about dates in this group lately.)

 

The idea is that we can offer her something sweet and wonderful, and that

eventually if she really loves the dates, they will simply supplant the

cakes and doughnuts naturally and with ease. Of course, we can expand this

approach to include other sweet fruits, such as figs, apricots, persimmons,

etc. as the seasons progress. I imagine there will be something to share

based upon this experiment during the weeks ahead.

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Colleen asks:

 

Also, I'm a tea drinker... I understand that sugar is right out, but am I to

give up teas entirely?

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I do suggest eliminating all refined sugar AND OTHER COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE

SWEETENERS as quickly and completely as you comfortably can. Instead, shift

to fruits as your sweeteners, and experiment. For example, many people put

lemon in their tea. How about squeezing in some orange instead, for the

sweetness? Or how about dropping a date, a piece of apple, whatever you

might enjoy trying, into the teacup, once the temperature has settled down a

bit (so you don't damage the fruit).

 

As for the tea itself, the caffeinated teas could go, if you drink any. Even

more important, do let go of the DEcaffeinated teas, those are really toxic.

And of course, the herbal teas are, as a group, the most mild.

 

Eventually, you may find that you simply let go of tea altogether, but for

now, I suggest that you do what comes easily and naturally to you, making

incremental changes rather than big jumps. Ease and grace are important.

_____

Colleen asks:

 

And my husband's question, how can he make sure that he gets enough protein

so that he doesnt' lose the muscle mass he needs in his athletics -- does he

need to get some whey shakes just to make sure?

_____

 

In spite of what has been marketed to athletes and physically active people,

there is quite literally no substantive evidence that one's need for protein

AS A PERCENT OF TOTAL INTAKE increases in the slightest with physical

activity. When we become physically active, we burn more calories, therefore

we eat more, and therefore we consume more protein. And that amount is

always sufficient, even for a world-class body builder. Anything more is

foreign matter, i.e., a toxin, and must be eliminated at some cost in terms

of energy and other resources.

 

Excess protein, even a modest amount, is actually quite toxic and places a

significant burden or workload on the body. Most Americans eating the SAD

consume about 16-17% of their calories as protein. I believe the number for

vegans is around 11%. But a truly healthy diet would include protein in the

range 3-8% of calories and no more.

 

There is only one way to achieve this, and that is by consuming 85+% of

one's total calories as simple sugar, in fruit. Many posts on this already,

please write if you wish to receive more information.

_____

Colleen asks:

 

How hard is it to get the right balance of nutrients -- do I have to worry

about " food combining " etc?

 

Food combining is constructive, even for nonRFs. Posts on this already,

please write if you wish to receive more information.

_____

And finally, Colleen requests:

 

And, would anyone please please share a sample grocery list for our first

raw shopping trip? How much can we expect to need for the first week?

 

Depends upon what you love to eat! One thing to keep in mind: if you choose

the high-fruit, high-oxygen, high-water approach suggested by me and some

others, then you will find yourself relearning to eat much larger quantities

of food than may be familiar. This transition occurs because foods that are

high in water are generally low in calories per bite, hence you will be

taking more bites!

 

Hope some of the foregoing is helpful to you and others,

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

 

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Hello Elchanon -- first I want to thank you for replying to my questions so

throrougly! I really appreciate that.

 

Your comment on my saying that I don't want to yell or speak ugliness in front

of my children -- that I should reframe that in a positive, uplifting way makes

SO MUCH sense! With my daughter I always try to use positives rather than

negatives ( " we color on paper " instead of " don't write on the walls!! " -- " touch

nicely " instead of " stop hitting! " ) and it always has a more positive result for

everyone involved... why wouldn't I use the same way of speaking in all areas?

What a simple but profound eye-opener. Learning every single day!!

 

I agree, cleansing sounds much nicer than detoxing, and has a deeper meaning.

Today my focus is going to be on using uplifting words in place of what my

habitual speech might be, I think that this will greatly affect my attitude and

mood... and benefit my daughters as well. I will remember what you said about a

*positive lens* and remind myself of that. My hope would be that my daughters

will grow to do that automatically, without needing to overcome negative thought

patterns.

 

Yes... my daughter is quite adept at letting us know what she wants or doesn't

want. LOL We want to allow her to develop her autonomy so we respect her

refusals. We do not want to limit her experience of the world, as you said,

except for safety concerns. We would like to make an atmosphere where she is

free to choose what her body naturally needs, and doesn't lose touch with that

aspect. As you have said -- I want it to be encouragement and not forcing. The

idea about the dates instead of the doughnuts was a good starting point.

 

 

I will check the past posts for food combining and other info...I may have more

questions on that. I get that nuts and fruit are best eaten separately, is that

right? I don't understand why melon is supposed to be eaten alone however...

Thanks also for your answers on tea and protein.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Colleen ~ Wife to Adam, my beloved and my friend

 

UCbirthing, breastfeeding, cosleeping, non vaxing, richly blessed AP mama to

Sarah Angelina (1/1/03) and Mia Catherine (8/23/04)

" As a mother comforts her child so I will comfort you " [isaiah 66:13]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Good morning Colleen! I'm so glad we have connected in this way. And I truly

admire the way in which you and Adam seem able to walk together in this.

Many people face challenging family situations when they choose to explore

RF, you are truly blessed, in my opinion.

 

If you have trouble locating old posts just let me know, I have most of the

posts I've written and can usually <tm> access them quickly and easily.

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

 

Colleen Rivera [colleenrachelle]

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:30 AM

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RE: [Raw Food] Thoughts for a new RF

 

 

Hello Elchanon -- first I want to thank you for replying to my questions so

throrougly! I really appreciate that.

 

Your comment on my saying that I don't want to yell or speak ugliness in

front of my children -- that I should reframe that in a positive, uplifting

way makes SO MUCH sense! With my daughter I always try to use positives

rather than negatives ( " we color on paper " instead of " don't write on the

walls!! " -- " touch nicely " instead of " stop hitting! " ) and it always has a

more positive result for everyone involved... why wouldn't I use the same

way of speaking in all areas? What a simple but profound eye-opener.

Learning every single day!!

 

I agree, cleansing sounds much nicer than detoxing, and has a deeper

meaning. Today my focus is going to be on using uplifting words in place of

what my habitual speech might be, I think that this will greatly affect my

attitude and mood... and benefit my daughters as well. I will remember what

you said about a *positive lens* and remind myself of that. My hope would be

that my daughters will grow to do that automatically, without needing to

overcome negative thought patterns.

 

Yes... my daughter is quite adept at letting us know what she wants or

doesn't want. LOL We want to allow her to develop her autonomy so we respect

her refusals. We do not want to limit her experience of the world, as you

said, except for safety concerns. We would like to make an atmosphere where

she is free to choose what her body naturally needs, and doesn't lose touch

with that aspect. As you have said -- I want it to be encouragement and not

forcing. The idea about the dates instead of the doughnuts was a good

starting point.

 

 

I will check the past posts for food combining and other info...I may have

more questions on that. I get that nuts and fruit are best eaten separately,

is that right? I don't understand why melon is supposed to be eaten alone

however... Thanks also for your answers on tea and protein.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Colleen ~ Wife to Adam, my beloved and my friend

 

UCbirthing, breastfeeding, cosleeping, non vaxing, richly blessed AP mama to

Sarah Angelina (1/1/03) and Mia Catherine (8/23/04)

" As a mother comforts her child so I will comfort you " [isaiah 66:13]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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