Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 To Sabrina and all, PLEASE make time to learn about fasting before you try it. There is a LOT of information out there, and as with so many things, much of it is poorly conceived, poorly communicated, etc. Fasting is very tender, delicate, self-loving journey, and at the same time you can cause yourself considerable discomfort. The knowledge and experience are out here. Particularly when one breaks a fast, one's entire system is in a very delicate and quite vulnerable place. How one breaks a fast is in my opinion, more crucial than the fast itself. So PLEASE ask for help and information BEFORE you venture forth. Please keep in mind the following simple principle: Fasting is an act of faith. It is an act of giving over control, of placing one's trust in Nature's brilliant design. Whoever would superimpose some intellectual concoction over that would lead himself and others away from harmony with Nature and toward something else instead. We are designed to eat a particular diet in a particular way, just as is every other animal on earth. This way works with or without fasting, before fasting, after fasting, on Sundays and holidays, even on bank holidays. It works whether the government raises or lowers taxes, whether the weather is rainy or the sun is shining. It works at home and at work, at social gatherings and when one is alone. It works, in various proportions, when we are " sick " and when we are at peak performance. If we will only let our biology depend upon us to make healthy choices, then we will be able to depend upon our biology to support and sustain us and take us to a place of thriving that few nowadays have ever experienced. Trust in Nature's design, and it will support and sustain you wherever your journey may take you. And yes, trust is an act of faith, not an act of science. But since science is itself a religion with clearly explicated core beliefs, dogmas, rituals, etc., I see no conflict here at all. Best to all, Elchanan slim8768 [slim8768] Monday, March 21, 2005 6:04 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Fasting - alkaline foods for breaking a fast The fast was 10 days, all vegetable juice (mostly green, some carrot mixed in) and for the first time ever I did one day all water. I broke it in the way that Master Cleanse suggests, with fresh citrus juice and then following with broth. I ended up taking baking soda and water to soothe my stomach and then all day yesterday I had fruit and fruit juices and a small salad in the evening. No more upset stomach! I also had a very good elimination this morning so I feel like I'm back on track. I really had no idea those peanuts would cause such a reaction but everything you've said has definitely made sense and helped quite a bit. Thanks! Sabrina rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote: > Sabrina wrote: > > Oh wow. I really wish I had read this earlier. I haven't checked this > site in several days. I'm second-day post fast and had been doing > citrus, but also consumed *several* handfuls of raw pistachios today > and my stomach has been " funny " (very gassy and " rumbly " ) ever since. > This makes some sense now. I am going to do citrus for most of > tomorrow and a fresh salad, lots of water and hope that will take > care of things. > _____ > > I'm so glad this is helpful to you. And as always, there is more. > > I am remiss in not asking, how long was the fast? > > When we fast, not only does the body switch to drawing its energy from > conversion of stored fat to simple sugar (gluconeogenesis), but also, as the > body cleanses, it eliminates stored toxins and body fat/water weight at a > very accelerated pace. The material being eliminated is all very acidic. So > one of the other things we emphasize when breaking a fast, along with foods > high in simple sugars and water, is also foods highest in alkaline > components. (Oh that was a terrible sentence, sorry.) > > Following this line of thought, you would be better off, for example, > breaking a fast on any more alkaline fruit than on any acid fruit, As I've > written in other posts, the sweet fruits are most alkalizing in our bodies. > Watermelon is perfect for breaking a fast, but probably unavailable now. > However, pears are available. While technically classified as a semisweet > (subacid) fruit because they have a core/pit, pears are actually very mild > WRT acid content. Your experience will become gentler if you switch to pears > for a bit. > > You can also make a very simple smoothie, say with part of a banana, a date > or two, part of a stalk of celery, and lots of water (watery drink, not a > thick smooth. Hydration is crucial following a fast.) You can use only the > date(s) and celery at first, but all three of these are extremely > alkalizing, and the bananas and dates are high in sugar. > > Best to all, > Elchanan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Please be aware that I, and I'm sure many others, have carefully, thoughtfully, prayerfully and thoroughly considered the " whys " and the " hows " of fasting. It's not a " fad " for me. I made a mistake, one that I've not made in previous fasts -- not because I am unaware, but because I am human. We all fall short of the glory, no? Again, I thank you for the information you provided that was actually beneficial. The beauty of this kind of forum is that we can take what's useful and dismiss what isn't. rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote: > > > To Sabrina and all, > > PLEASE make time to learn about fasting before you try it. There is a LOT of > information out there, and as with so many things, much of it is poorly > conceived, poorly communicated, etc. Fasting is very tender, delicate, > self-loving journey, and at the same time you can cause yourself > considerable discomfort. > > The knowledge and experience are out here. > > Particularly when one breaks a fast, one's entire system is in a very > delicate and quite vulnerable place. How one breaks a fast is in my opinion, > more crucial than the fast itself. So PLEASE ask for help and information > BEFORE you venture forth. > > Please keep in mind the following simple principle: Fasting is an act of > faith. It is an act of giving over control, of placing one's trust in > Nature's brilliant design. Whoever would superimpose some intellectual > concoction over that would lead himself and others away from harmony with > Nature and toward something else instead. > > We are designed to eat a particular diet in a particular way, just as is > every other animal on earth. This way works with or without fasting, before > fasting, after fasting, on Sundays and holidays, even on bank holidays. It > works whether the government raises or lowers taxes, whether the weather is > rainy or the sun is shining. It works at home and at work, at social > gatherings and when one is alone. It works, in various proportions, when we > are " sick " and when we are at peak performance. > > If we will only let our biology depend upon us to make healthy choices, then > we will be able to depend upon our biology to support and sustain us and > take us to a place of thriving that few nowadays have ever experienced. > Trust in Nature's design, and it will support and sustain you wherever your > journey may take you. > > And yes, trust is an act of faith, not an act of science. But since science > is itself a religion with clearly explicated core beliefs, dogmas, rituals, > etc., I see no conflict here at all. > > Best to all, > Elchanan > > slim8768 [slim8768] > Monday, March 21, 2005 6:04 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Fasting - alkaline foods for breaking a fast > > > > > The fast was 10 days, all vegetable juice (mostly green, some carrot > mixed in) and for the first time ever I did one day all water. I > broke it in the way that Master Cleanse suggests, with fresh citrus > juice and then following with broth. I ended up taking baking soda > and water to soothe my stomach and then all day yesterday I had fruit > and fruit juices and a small salad in the evening. No more upset > stomach! I also had a very good elimination this morning so I feel > like I'm back on track. I really had no idea those peanuts would > cause such a reaction but everything you've said has definitely made > sense and helped quite a bit. Thanks! > > Sabrina > rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> > wrote: > > Sabrina wrote: > > > > Oh wow. I really wish I had read this earlier. I haven't checked > this > > site in several days. I'm second-day post fast and had been doing > > citrus, but also consumed *several* handfuls of raw pistachios > today > > and my stomach has been " funny " (very gassy and " rumbly " ) ever > since. > > This makes some sense now. I am going to do citrus for most of > > tomorrow and a fresh salad, lots of water and hope that will take > > care of things. > > _____ > > > > I'm so glad this is helpful to you. And as always, there is more. > > > > I am remiss in not asking, how long was the fast? > > > > When we fast, not only does the body switch to drawing its energy > from > > conversion of stored fat to simple sugar (gluconeogenesis), but > also, as the > > body cleanses, it eliminates stored toxins and body fat/water > weight at a > > very accelerated pace. The material being eliminated is all very > acidic. So > > one of the other things we emphasize when breaking a fast, along > with foods > > high in simple sugars and water, is also foods highest in alkaline > > components. (Oh that was a terrible sentence, sorry.) > > > > Following this line of thought, you would be better off, for > example, > > breaking a fast on any more alkaline fruit than on any acid fruit, > As I've > > written in other posts, the sweet fruits are most alkalizing in our > bodies. > > Watermelon is perfect for breaking a fast, but probably unavailable > now. > > However, pears are available. While technically classified as a > semisweet > > (subacid) fruit because they have a core/pit, pears are actually > very mild > > WRT acid content. Your experience will become gentler if you switch > to pears > > for a bit. > > > > You can also make a very simple smoothie, say with part of a > banana, a date > > or two, part of a stalk of celery, and lots of water (watery drink, > not a > > thick smooth. Hydration is crucial following a fast.) You can use > only the > > date(s) and celery at first, but all three of these are extremely > > alkalizing, and the bananas and dates are high in sugar. > > > > Best to all, > > Elchanan > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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