Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hi Froggy, I've been thinking about what you wrote here: The pleasure of sex versus the intellectual knowledge of wanting growth, love, commitment, joy, etc. with a person is hard to reconcile. At least it is so far for me, but I plan to come to some sort of mental peace of mind about this issue sooner or later. Temporary sex with someone may leave me unfulfilled but it feels much too good physically. Still, there must be an answer to mental peace of mind about relations and sex. My only root to mental healing is this diet. From my own personal experience ONLY, I have noticed myself, in the past, seeking pleasure in order to avoid joy, fulfillment, success, etc. Now I realize that, on the surface, this may sound inherently contradictory. But as one can become addicted to certain foods or to a way of eating, so too one can become addicted to sex. (I'm not saying that is you, I'm only making a point.) In contrast, I have never heard anyone mention becoming addicted to joy, happiness, playfulness, fulfillment, success. (to the love of money, yes, to success, no) So I wonder, out loud here, whether a part of you is actually avoiding success. I read, in another of your messages to the group, that a part of you regrets (a bit) not having worked steadily in a job for 20 years, not having become that highly paid, well respected executive. So I'm just listening and wondering, that's all. Hope you find this constructive, it is intended that way! Elchanan -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- vlinfo signed email body (1206 characters) on 25 February 2005 at 00:15:29 UTC rawfood ------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAAhbh5CtgQAACYCAAIAAgACACBZ36NZd8ice9rJ4ZlYrt6BrEjH8O zzmKDQLsTNDUWDmAEAhgSkE5NuzzvORJkeFIi/NVXB9GCG1XVfaMj+yPGZ0X2ieB wgBse2hTJScARR/2waCD2vDEUb6e8uu872tmvNSg== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Fear not cybercadet, say what you will. Man confuses joy with pain much, all real joy comes from finding God's will in one's life. I'm sorry this is getting so religious, I'm sure the topic will end sooner or later. I think probably, half the population is a food addict to one degree or another. And I am a recovering sex addict, even though I haven't experienced many relationships with another in my life. I don't think I'm avoiding success as I'm pursuing truth as I understand it and I'm quite the happy camper these days. I'm not sure what kind of success you're suggesting that I'm avoiding. Surely morality is a part of joy. Any dialoguing is a good thing. It helps me to understand myself better, get clearer about the person I want to be and love others more in the process. Oh, I get it, avoiding success workwise. Sure, I've chosen to explore many groups, situations, activities, other life happenings rather than faithfully, determinedly establish a career. So I created my own reality in that sense. I have no real regrets, I just like to lament in my immature nonacceptance of my life. Of course, it's not up to me whether I work for someone or not, so if it's meant to be it will happen, if not, then not. I certainly get a lot out of life whatever I do and a good, interesting career could only augment that. I guess it just comes down to what's most beneficial for me from unseen workings, if being a vagabond in activity is best for me then I guess that's what will continue, if being a careerist is what is best for me then I guess that will happen. rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...> wrote: > Hi Froggy, > > I've been thinking about what you wrote here: > > The pleasure of sex versus the intellectual knowledge of > wanting growth, love, commitment, joy, etc. with a person > is hard to reconcile. At least it is so far for me, but I > plan to come to some sort of mental peace of mind about > this issue sooner or later. Temporary sex with someone may > leave me unfulfilled but it feels much too good physically. > Still, there must be an answer to mental peace of mind about > relations and sex. My only root to mental healing is this diet. > > > From my own personal experience ONLY, I have noticed myself, in the past, > seeking pleasure in order to avoid joy, fulfillment, success, etc. > > Now I realize that, on the surface, this may sound inherently contradictory. > But as one can become addicted to certain foods or to a way of eating, so > too one can become addicted to sex. (I'm not saying that is you, I'm only > making a point.) In contrast, I have never heard anyone mention becoming > addicted to joy, happiness, playfulness, fulfillment, success. (to the love > of money, yes, to success, no) So I wonder, out loud here, whether a part of > you is actually avoiding success. > > I read, in another of your messages to the group, that a part of you regrets > (a bit) not having worked steadily in a job for 20 years, not having become > that highly paid, well respected executive. > > So I'm just listening and wondering, that's all. Hope you find this > constructive, it is intended that way! > > Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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