RE: Milk substitutes, personal care products [s]

[Guest guest]

Hi Janeen,

 

Congratulations on all the changes you are making in your life and in your

being. I can sense you excitement as I read your story and questions.

Following are some thought you may find interesting and useful.

 

PART 1: MILK SUBSTITUTION

There are different approaches to a raw vegan diet -- radically different,

in fact. The majority of raw fooders tend to consume a very high-fat diet,

higher, in fact, than the SAD. (The SAD fat consumption is around 40% of

calories, give or take. In contrast, many raw fooders are consuming 50-80%

of their calories as fat -- though most of them are unaware of this.)

 

A high-fat raw vegan diet includes a steady stream of nuts, seeds, avocado,

and, to begin addressing your questions more directly, nut and seed milks

(almond milk, sesame milk, etc.) Not only do these foods contain a high

percentage of calories from fat (generally 70-95% across the board for nuts,

seeds, avocado in the 80s), these foods are also characterized by very high

caloric density. In other words, one bite of avocado, or a small handful of

nuts or seeds, contains far more calories than the same physical quantity

(the same size bite) of, say, banana or orange or lettuce. This combination

of very high caloric density (high calories per bite) and very high percent

of calories from fat shoots people's overall % consumption of calories from

fat way up, far beyond what most people realize.

 

My dear friend, Laurie Masters, has analyzed countless raw recipes, meals,

etc., using the USDA nutritional database and other resources, far more than

anyone else I know. Laurie has consistently found that most raw fooders

really are consuming at least 2/3 of all their calories from fat. Those who

drink large quantities of green juices (or the like) may succeed in dropping

that percentage to 50 or so, but that is still MUCH higher than the standard

American diet.

 

In contrast, vegan raw fooders who focus on a high-fruit/greens, low-fat

approach are much better hydrated and oxygenated and, over a long period of

years, will fare quite differently. But such people presently constitute a

small minority within the overall raw food community. If you want to know

more about this, please write back! (Invitation open to anyone on the list.)

 

CONCLUSION: So in response to your question about milk substitutes, one

option you might consider is to make no substitution, just drop it out of

your diet. We are the only mammalian species on the planet that consumes

milk after weaning, milk from a source other than our own mother (there are

a few exceptions in Nature), or milk of another species. You have been

weaned (presumably decades ago) -- and so I encourage you to let go of milk,

completely and permanently.

 

PART 2: PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS

Again, consider that no products are the best products. As you clean up your

diet and your body cleans itself, and particularly if you add in other

healthy lifestyle components -- activity, sunshine, fresh air, high-quality

sleep and rest, etc. -- eventually your body odor will disappear. You can

drop related cosmetics. Your mouth will become clean and your breath fresh

-- drop those cosmetics. (Yes, even toothpaste and equivalents.) Once your

body composition (as opposed to your body weight) reaches a healthy level,

your body will stop exuding fat through your skin and scalp, and you will no

longer need shampoos or soaps to cleanse your hair, head, face, etc.

 

Some people seem to enjoy washing their hair with fresh lemon juice and

honey.

 

Regarding skin care products, if you consume no salt and a low-fat diet, and

particularly as you improve WRT sunshine, fresh air, sleep/rest, etc., your

overall hydration improves. Your body eliminates brine (stored salt water

from past, unresolved salt consumption) from under the skin and excess fat

from everywhere. Your skin become rehydrates and improves dramatically. So

you can drop all those products.

 

In the meantime, try this: take the pit of an avocado and rub that gently on

your face or wherever. There is enough wonderful avocado oil residual on the

pit to oil your skin. But remember, healthy skin arises from excellent

hydration, not from oil.

 

In short, look for every opportunity to separate yourself from the chemical

industry, nothing they manufacture is truly nontoxic. This includes

virtually all products labeled " nontoxic, " the term is only weakly defined

and almost completely unenforced (in any sense meaningful to us).

 

Finally, yes, body hair, particularly hair on ones head, MAY return to its

natural color over time. But many factors influence this, most of which are

probably unknown to anyone. And in the cases where I have seen this occur,

it has taken years. Do you like being blondish? If so, put lemon juice in

your hair and hang out in the sun for a SHORT time. Repeat every day or

every several days and watch your hair color change. (But DON'T stay out in

the sun longer than you are accustomed, if you are used to being indoors,

you must reacclimate your system to sunlight gradually.)

 

Hope some of this is useful to you and others.

Elchanan

 

 

JanPro77 [JanPro77]

Friday, February 18, 2005 4:22 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] New....

I am also new to this group and had made so many changes in my life since

July when my son was on the net looking for a diet to lose a few pounds and

found the PETA site. He went Vegan that day, then I read the site and I

went

Vegan the day I read it. I lost 20 pounds and still have 20 to go. I am not

all

raw foods yet but believe I am heading that way the more I read about it and

that is why I am on this list to learn more about it. To tell you how much I

have changed I came from what America considers as a healthy diet but is not

because I was eating dairy and had sinus headaches sometimes. I have always

been a healthy person {well, not getting sick} except for the sinus

headaches

and ear infections sometimes. My husband supports me on my vegan diet but

not

sure what he would say about Raw food even tho I talked to him a little

about it and he didn't seem to mind. He is a hunter so it makes us a lot

different in how we think about meat. Anyway I was wondering what you drink

for milk

or put in your smoothie as I have been using soy milk and I know that would

not be in a Raw Food diet. Also I have been reading a lot about chemicals

in

our shampoos, makeup, toothpastes, cleaning products ect... and I have been

trying to get them all replaced. Another question is what to do about hair

dye

as my red hair is starting to gray. Hair dyes have chemicals so was

wondering

what raw foodist do about that. I was reading a site where they said their

hair started turning back to its natural color, has that happen to anyone

on

this list? Janeen

[Guest guest]

Hello Elchanan,

 

I am interested to hear more about taking a low-fat approach to raw

eating, including some helpful suggestions on what to do with salads if

not using an oil-based dressing. I do not enjoy an undressed salad nor

can I stomach much with only lemon juice, and the few non-fat dressings

I've made were unpalatable. Or perhaps there is another approach to

consuming greens (other than juicing) that I have not thought of.

 

I have enjoyed reading your posts the last few days and hope you

continue to post. If you don't mind, I would be interested in hearing

(reading) what your raw food path is/has been, what your eating choices

are. You seem to have a good knowledge base, and I am interested in

how you came to it. It is understood if you do not wish to share this

information; I am curious because my raw path is just beginning.

 

Thanks,

Kim (7 weeks raw)

 

On Feb 18, 2005, at 12:04 PM, INFO @ Vibrant Life wrote:

 

>

> In contrast, vegan raw fooders who focus on a high-fruit/greens,

> low-fat

> approach are much better hydrated and oxygenated and, over a long

> period of

> years, will fare quite differently. But such people presently

> constitute a

> small minority within the overall raw food community. If you want to

> know

> more about this, please write back! (Invitation open to anyone on the

> list.)

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well, I plan to stick around on a daily basis for a long time. It's going to

take a

long time before I'm comfortable with this diet. Who wouldn't want to share

their diet on here? How much painful ego resistance could there be to this

diet? that it would hurt and/or bother someone too much to talk about it.

 

rawfood , Kimberly Dawkins <kim.dawkins@c...>

wrote:

> I have enjoyed reading your posts the last few days and hope you

> continue to post. If you don't mind, I would be interested in hearing

> (reading) what your raw food path is/has been, what your eating choices

> are. You seem to have a good knowledge base, and I am interested in

> how you came to it. It is understood if you do not wish to share this

> information; I am curious because my raw path is just beginning.

>

> Thanks,

> Kim (7 weeks raw)