Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 <<<<Tev: Knowledge or imaginative speculation? I remain skeptical. Sounds like another marketing package to me.>>>> It's just a book of many out there. You take what you want and leave the rest from any books you read. His impressed me because he was selling nothing and gave a lot of good home tests one could do theirselves. <<<TEV: This sort of apologetic is predictable. Anger is an appropriate response for me when confronting snake-oil salesmen or women and other charlatans.(Throw the money-changers out of my temple!)>>>> Too bad, you must be angry most of the time! <<<<TEV: I think it is important too, that people report their investigations. However, it appears to me that such reports are being coined in the language of fact. All " ideas " or " introspections " are not facts.>>>> Most " fact " is what we want to believe. What is fact to one person, is not necessarilly fact to another. <<<< nutritional science, and such information may influence people and their lives, shouldn't there be accountability?>>>> The accountability lies within ourselves as this is true in all areas of our lives. Just because we come to the conclusion of something doesn't mean that it is truth either, only our perception of truth. <<<TEV: I applaud his devotion, good intentions, and his good-work ethic. What " seemed to work " and the ideas of " expansion and contraction " that he has packaged them into, seems dubious to me.>>>> You seem to be quite a critic of this man. Have you ever read his book? <<<< Nutritional science is already complex. Do Dr. Morter's " findings " simplify Nutri-sci or make it more complex and confused?>>> I read his book a fews years back and found it to be written in simple laymans terms. It didn't confuse me at all. <<<TEV: Clinical experience? Yeah, so...what is that? That tells me nothing. There are lots of SAD doctors and dentists with clinical experience. As to literary research, so what. I can do that myself. I don't need to buy another book. Too many opinions about nutritional science that aren't based on biochemical facts.>>> You are right, it can get mighty confusing. TEV: TEV's test: Does the food serve to keep my body healthy and to keep me feeling good? If it does great. If not, out it goes. I don't need to confuse my body with " expansions and contractions " . Since my " body has an innate ability to keep itself in tune via 'proper' nutrition " already, why do I need the ambiguous information about " expansion and contraction " ?>>>> I'd say you don't. It sounds like you are happy where you are at, but I don't recall that I said this information that I offered to share was written in stone either. I am of the nature to keep improving myself. I don't like being stagnant, I like moving ahead. I am in the process of purchasing a microscope because I don't want to just read or hear what goes on by eating raw foods, I want to know. The blood, urine, saliva tell a lot about ones condition. I want to see if the white count really goes up after eating cooked. I want to see how it affects yeast, candida, fungus, good fats, bad fats, enzymes and etc. I guess you could say I want to see the unseen. Vegigran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 > It's just a book of many out there. You take what > you want and leave the > rest from any books you read. His impressed me > because he was selling > nothing and gave a lot of good home tests one could > do theirselves. > TEV: I understand. The same concepts impressed me as nonsense. BTW, he is selling his book, yes? > Too bad, you must be angry most of the time! TEV: This is hardly helpful to the raw food discussion. My comment on Dr. Morter is a valid expression of my skepticism. If anger is included, towards those who lie and deceive others, that's what it is. Nothing more. > Most " fact " is what we want to believe. What is > fact to one person, is not > necessarilly fact to another. > TEV: 2 + 2 = 4 whether I believe it or not. Your statement about " fact " is simply not reasonable or true. > The accountability lies within ourselves as this is > true in all areas of our > lives. Just because we come to the conclusion of > something doesn't mean > that it is truth either, only our perception of > truth. TEV: And yet we are a society of laws and peer reviews aren't we? Even in the scientific community, works are examined and tested. Accountability is brought upon those who knowingly mislead or deceive. It is true that we hold ourselves accountable; and we also hold others accountable for what they say and do and teach. > You seem to be quite a critic of this man. Have you > ever read his book? TEV: A valid question. There are an awful lot of books out there. I do not have time to read everyone. I can eliminate potential " reads " by such basic information as indicated by the " expansion and contraction " concept. As I stated, it strikes me as nonsense. It doesn't make it to the pile of books by my bed. > I read his book a fews years back and found it to be > written in simple > laymans terms. It didn't confuse me at all. OK. > I'd say you don't. It sounds like you are happy > where you are at, but I > don't recall that I said this information that I > offered to share was > written in stone either. I am of the nature to keep > improving myself. I > don't like being stagnant, I like moving ahead. I > am in the process of > purchasing a microscope because I don't want to just > read or hear what goes > on by eating raw foods, I want to know. The blood, > urine, saliva tell a lot > about ones condition. I want to see if the white > count really goes up after > eating cooked. I want to see how it affects yeast, > candida, fungus, good > fats, bad fats, enzymes and etc. I guess you could > say I want to see the > unseen. > > Vegigran TEV: What a great statement. I perfect ending to the discussion. I too want to see the unseen. May your wish come true. ===== [...there'll be love and laughter, and peace ever after, just you wait and see... ---Vera Lynn] Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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