Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Amy,Just so you know, two days prior to writing that original Planet Raw post, the woman I’d been dating told me she wanted to just be friends. And two days before that, I’d witnessed people cheering and laughing as a man jumped to his death in downtown San Francisco. Furthermore, I’ve been unemployed ever since being laid off in October from the job I moved cross-country for, and went into debt moving back to California last month. So, with all due respect, if you’re asking me to show compassion for a chef who (for whatever reason) insulted my good friends, I might request a little consideration of what I happened to be going through when writing that I would boycott Planet Raw. Understand that I wrote my original post out of heartfelt compassion for my friends Tammy & Chris. It upset me greatly that someone showed them such disrespect, so I was calling on Planet Raw to do the decent thing by taking some form of responsibility for their chef’s actions. But you seem to be saying that showing compassion for the offender amounts to absolving her from having to account for herself because she may have been having a bad day, a bad week, a bad whatever. I disagree, and use myself as an example to illustrate why. That is, I openly admit here that my own response to Rob’s comment about “giving vegans a bad name” was uncalled for. It was an overreaction to a perceived accusation of bigotry that the stressors in my life may help explain, but not excuse — and that’s why I’m taking ownership for it. Rob and I buried our hatchet days ago by agreeing that we merely misunderstood one another, and I’m pledging to be more careful in online forums (where words can easily take on unintended meanings). In contrast, as far as I know, Planet Raw still has not even acknowledged that anything happened…but apparently, now they won’t have to. Merely pardoning the chef’s rudeness isn’t compassion; it’s being an enabler to her destructiveness. As the Dalai Lama has said, “One of the reasons there is a need to adopt a strong countermeasure against someone who (causes harm) is that if you let it pass, there is a danger of that person becoming habituated to extremely negative actions, which in the long run will cause that person’s own downfall and is very destructive for the individual himself or herself. Therefore, a strong countermeasure, taken out of compassion or a sense of concern for the other, is necessary. When you are motivated by that realization, then there is a sense of concern as part of your motive for taking that strong measure.” Ultimately, though, the outcome of the Planet Raw wars no longer interests me: I’m honestly ready to just move on from this discussion, which from the start has only caused me grief. Mat Thomas www.animalrighter.org On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Tammy <tammy wrote: Actually, Amy, that reason was not in the litany that the chef/co-owner shared as to why she was walking out mid-day. I do agree, it is her lesson to learn with her business. Tammy On Behalf Of giegrrrlWednesday, February 24, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: for Mat for Mat.I think whatever compassion you offer up for animals, for suicides, etc... you could extend that compassion to the woman from the restaurant giving vegans a bad name. For all you know, a loved one of hers committed suicide the previous weekend. If she kills her business, she kills it. That's her lesson.Amy in Pacifica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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