Guest guest Posted December 24, 1999 Report Share Posted December 24, 1999 This is so true -- and so little understood. I am a diabetic vegetarian, and I have come across a group of diabetics trying to lose weight by " low carbing " and unfortunately for them, there is a book authoring doctor somewhere that is actually promoting this -- and I don't mean Dr. Atkins, who is another. Can't recall his name, but looked his books up in Amazon.com and it is all too true. I tried to post some sensible remarks to the list which they are apparently on, but only got nasty notes in response, so gave up. But it's a real shame. ======================================================== Let us host your website -- starting at $100.00/year -- sorry -- no monthlies. We have very fast computers, and multiple OC-3 lines to internet backbone. We also design standard and custom websites to your specifications. You can get a large home page for just $100.00 -- $50.00/page afterwards. You can also use our subdomain facility to avoid paying $70.00 for a domain. http://www.infomrt.com -- contact 1-888-INFOMRT hostmaster - < > < > Friday, December 24, 1999 1:10 AM Digest Number 84 > >jules2and1 (jules3) > > > > > >Re: (no subject) > >Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:04:39 -0500 (EST) > > > >High protein diets will cause you to lose weight. They do this by > >throwing your body into an unnatural state called ketosis. So in this > >sense, they " work. " Unfortunately, by following a high protein diet to > >lose weight, you are sacrificing your future health in order to meet an > >immediate goal. It is very easy to get excessive amounts of protein ... > >the average American consumes 400% of the RDA for protein! Excess > >protein wrecks havoc on your kidneys and your liver and animal proteins > >adversely affect your digestive system and circulatory system (heart > >disease, strokes), among other body areas. Virtually all dietary and > >nutrition " experts " in the field are condemning high-protein diets ... > >especially followed over any length of time. The people you hear > >touting the benefits of the high-protein diets are those who are making > >big bucks off of their books and diet plans (i.e. Atkins) and those > >people who have lost weight on the plans and are happy to ignore any > >damage they might be doing to their bodies in the process. I would > >never recommend a high-protein diet. The best way to lose weight is > >pretty simple ... limit your calories (count them if you need to) and > >increase your exercise level. Avoid refined sugars and flours ... opt > >for higher-fiber (and nutrition) complex carbohydrates instead (i.e. > >whole wheat bread instead of white bread, brown rice instead of white > >rice). Eat lots of vegetables and fruits (but watch juices, as they can > >pack in a lot of calories without the fiber). If you do this, you will > >lose weight ... and preserve your health in the meantime. Look on-line > >for a copy of the vegetarian food pyramid. Opt for the lower number of > >servings in each category and use that for a daily guideline. Good > >luck! > > > >****************************************** > >Visit my web page, " The Peaceable Kingdom " , at > >http://members.tripod.com/~JuleenW/index.html > > > ><< text3.html >> > > > > __________________________ ___ > __________________________ ___ > > Message: 3 > Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:01:29 -0600 > Shelly Graham <songbird > Hi Protein Diet > > High protein diets, vegetarian or otherwise, are dangerous. You can lose > weight but at great expense to your vital organs. Too much protein causes > your body to increase metabolism to get the protein out because it is > toxic. I highly recommend you consider a juice fast. You will feel > absolutely wonderful if you do it correctly. Dr. Joel Robbins has a book > that gives you guidelines to follow and how to come out of the fast so you > won't have wasted your time. You can find his site at wellnessclinics.com > He is vegetarian and vibrantly healthy. > Shelly N.D. > > > > __________________________ ___ > __________________________ ___ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 1999 Report Share Posted December 24, 1999 Hi CFW (and everyone else!), I was beginning to think that the only diabetic vegetarian was my boyfriend. Do you have handy any sites / e-mail discussion groups that deal seriously with the challenge of being a diabetic vegetarian??? I would appreciate it immensely! TIA, KB CFWilkes wrote: > " CFWilkes " <cfw > > This is so true -- and so little understood. I am a diabetic vegetarian, > and > I have come across a group of diabetics trying to lose weight by " low > carbing " > and unfortunately for them, there is a book authoring doctor somewhere that > is actually promoting this -- and I don't mean Dr. Atkins, who is another. > Can't recall his name, but looked his books up in Amazon.com and it is all > too true. I tried to post some sensible remarks to the list which they > are > apparently on, but only got nasty notes in response, so gave up. But it's > a real shame. > > ======================================================== > Let us host your website -- starting at $100.00/year -- sorry -- no > monthlies. > We have very fast computers, and multiple OC-3 lines to internet backbone. > We also design standard and custom websites to your specifications. > You can get a large home page for just $100.00 -- $50.00/page afterwards. > You can also use our subdomain facility to avoid paying $70.00 for a domain. > http://www.infomrt.com -- contact 1-888-INFOMRT hostmaster > > - > < > > < > > Friday, December 24, 1999 1:10 AM > Digest Number 84 > > >jules2and1 (jules3) > > > > > > > > >Re: (no subject) > > >Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:04:39 -0500 (EST) > > > > > >High protein diets will cause you to lose weight. They do this by > > >throwing your body into an unnatural state called ketosis. So in this > > >sense, they " work. " Unfortunately, by following a high protein diet to > > >lose weight, you are sacrificing your future health in order to meet an > > >immediate goal. It is very easy to get excessive amounts of protein ... > > >the average American consumes 400% of the RDA for protein! Excess > > >protein wrecks havoc on your kidneys and your liver and animal proteins > > >adversely affect your digestive system and circulatory system (heart > > >disease, strokes), among other body areas. Virtually all dietary and > > >nutrition " experts " in the field are condemning high-protein diets ... > > >especially followed over any length of time. The people you hear > > >touting the benefits of the high-protein diets are those who are making > > >big bucks off of their books and diet plans (i.e. Atkins) and those > > >people who have lost weight on the plans and are happy to ignore any > > >damage they might be doing to their bodies in the process. I would > > >never recommend a high-protein diet. The best way to lose weight is > > >pretty simple ... limit your calories (count them if you need to) and > > >increase your exercise level. Avoid refined sugars and flours ... opt > > >for higher-fiber (and nutrition) complex carbohydrates instead (i.e. > > >whole wheat bread instead of white bread, brown rice instead of white > > >rice). Eat lots of vegetables and fruits (but watch juices, as they can > > >pack in a lot of calories without the fiber). If you do this, you will > > >lose weight ... and preserve your health in the meantime. Look on-line > > >for a copy of the vegetarian food pyramid. Opt for the lower number of > > >servings in each category and use that for a daily guideline. Good > > >luck! > > > > > >****************************************** > > >Visit my web page, " The Peaceable Kingdom " , at > > >http://members.tripod.com/~JuleenW/index.html > > > > > ><< text3.html >> > > > > > > > > > __________________________ > ___ > > > __________________________ > ___ > > > > Message: 3 > > Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:01:29 -0600 > > Shelly Graham <songbird > > Hi Protein Diet > > > > High protein diets, vegetarian or otherwise, are dangerous. You can lose > > weight but at great expense to your vital organs. Too much protein causes > > your body to increase metabolism to get the protein out because it is > > toxic. I highly recommend you consider a juice fast. You will feel > > absolutely wonderful if you do it correctly. Dr. Joel Robbins has a book > > that gives you guidelines to follow and how to come out of the fast so you > > won't have wasted your time. You can find his site at wellnessclinics.com > > He is vegetarian and vibrantly healthy. > > Shelly N.D. > > > > > > > > > __________________________ > ___ > > > __________________________ > ___ > > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! > Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in > forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/gator4 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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