New

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone, I'm Kelly ( male) i live in new york city, the bronx to be

exact. both my wife and i have been on and off vegetarians. i do all the

shopping and cooking so i'm always trying to make interesting and healthy

meals. I have been following the list for a while and the recipies have been

very good- thank you all. the following recipie is my wifes favorite salad

dressing it's easy ,fast, and lasts a long time in the refrigerator

 

Carrot Dressing

 

1to 11/2 lbs. fresh uncooked carrots, cut into big chunks

1 small onion or large shallot

a slice or chunk of fresh ginger peeled i use a piece around 1/4 to a half

inch thick maybe the width of a quarter

1 tsp dark sesame oil

1 tsp tamari or soy sauce

1 Tbs. white vingar

1 cup of canola oil

 

Put the first 3 ingredients in the food proccessor start the machine and

let the machine really chop everything up. While the machine is running add

the next 3 ingredients stop the machine and scrape the sides. Start the

machine and slowly add the oil. refrigerate a few hours before serving.

it makes quite a lot.

Kelly

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami welcome! Ani Di Franco is great!

 

--Tim

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list, Laurie.

I know when I started out as a vegetarian

I went gradually from pesco-pollo, to pesco,

and then into lacto-ovo. Personally, I have

no desire to go full vegan yet, but I enjoy mostly

vegan dishes of late.

What do you mean specifically about not having

quite mastered alternative protein sources? Perhaps

some us on this list can help you with some aspects

you are finding challenging by telling you about things

that have worked well for us. Again, good to have you here.

 

~ PT ~

 

Patience and fortitude conquer all things.

~ Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882)

~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~>

, " Laurie B " <laitaina@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is Laurie and I'm from Raleigh, NC. I'm new to

vegetarianism. My

> biggest hurdle right now is I'm not much of a cook. Most workdays,

I keep

> cereal bars in the car and grab salads or subs on the way. I do eat

fish at

> times, as I haven't quite mastered alternative protein sources.

>

> Laurie

[Guest guest]

>Welcome to the list, Laurie.

>I know when I started out as a vegetarian

>I went gradually from pesco-pollo, to pesco,

>and then into lacto-ovo. Personally, I have

>no desire to go full vegan yet, but I enjoy mostly

>vegan dishes of late.

>

I like the gradual idea. Lately, I've been kicking myself for slipping up.

One day I came back from lunch and realized I'd ordered a CHICKEN caesar

salad, instead of a regular caesar. Whoops BTW, thanks for explaining

the terms. I was wondering what " lacto-ovo " meant.

 

>What do you mean specifically about not having

>quite mastered alternative protein sources? Perhaps

>some us on this list can help you with some aspects

>you are finding challenging by telling you about things

>that have worked well for us. Again, good to have you here.

>

Thanks. I heard vegetarians had to be careful to consume enough protein,

since they're not getting it from meat. I'm not particularly fond of protein

shakes, even though they are easy to make.

 

I'm looking for very basic recipes to start out with (ideally ones that

don't involve a stove <g>). Having grown up in the south, I am only really

familiar with the vegetables you would find in a stew. I also do a great

deal of driving. Healthy food is hard to come by on the road, so I grab

salads or fresh sandwiches where I can and keep cereal bars handy for when

they're not. In a world where it's easier to find Coke than water, it would

seem healthier to brown-bag it.

 

I thought I'd start out with things like homemade salads, pitas and wraps.

What would be good to put in those? I love hummus spreads and refried beans

but am not sure what they go with. I'm also interested in learning to use

lentils, chick peas, tofu and salsa.

 

Laurie

 

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[Guest guest]

Hey Laurie B I am from Raleigh as well! COOL BEANS, what part do you live?

You can call me Meschell. Keep in touch if you like. My other e-mail is

mrsmacon903. And welcome to the group! Meschell

 

Laurie B <laitaina wrote:

Hi,

 

My name is Laurie and I'm from Raleigh, NC. I'm new to vegetarianism. My

biggest hurdle right now is I'm not much of a cook. Most workdays, I keep

cereal bars in the car and grab salads or subs on the way. I do eat fish at

times, as I haven't quite mastered alternative protein sources.

 

Laurie

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello Becky,

 

 

 

While browsing around for myself today I came across a book that might

interest you at amazon.com

 

 

 

Student's Vegetarian Cookbook, Revised : Quick, Easy, Cheap, and Tasty

Vegetarian Recipes

by Carole

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books & field-a

uthor=Carole%20Raymond/104-3650263-8614340> Raymond (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761511709/qid=1073600695/

/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/104-3650263-8614340?v=glance

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761511709/qid=1073600695

/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/104-3650263-8614340?v=glance & s=books & n=507846>

& s=books & n=507846

 

 

 

Nice to meet you!

 

 

 

Lisa

 

 

 

www.pbase.com/aljuwaie

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kill Me Now [melancholyloser]

Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:38 PM

 

New

 

 

 

Hello everyone.

I got an invitation for this group and decided to join, and I thought

I'd let ya'll know a little bit about me . My name is Becky, I'm 17

and live in NC. I've been following a vegetarian diet for about 2 and a

half years now. If anyone has any relativly cheap recipes I would

appreciate them because my family doesn't really cook stuff for me and I

buy my own food lol. Well I'm going to go, talk to ya'll later.

~*Becky*~

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lisa, thanks for the suggestion, I'm going to check it out .

~*Becky*~

 

" l. a l j u w a i e " <aljuwaie wrote:

Hello Becky,

 

 

 

While browsing around for myself today I came across a book that might

interest you at amazon.com

 

 

 

Student's Vegetarian Cookbook, Revised : Quick, Easy, Cheap, and Tasty

Vegetarian Recipes

by Carole

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books & field-a

uthor=Carole%20Raymond/104-3650263-8614340> Raymond (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761511709/qid=1073600695/

/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/104-3650263-8614340?v=glance

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761511709/qid=1073600695

/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/104-3650263-8614340?v=glance & s=books & n=507846>

& s=books & n=507846

 

 

 

Nice to meet you!

 

 

 

Lisa

 

 

 

www.pbase.com/aljuwaie

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kill Me Now [melancholyloser]

Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:38 PM

 

New

 

 

 

Hello everyone.

I got an invitation for this group and decided to join, and I thought

I'd let ya'll know a little bit about me . My name is Becky, I'm 17

and live in NC. I've been following a vegetarian diet for about 2 and a

half years now. If anyone has any relativly cheap recipes I would

appreciate them because my family doesn't really cook stuff for me and I

buy my own food lol. Well I'm going to go, talk to ya'll later.

~*Becky*~

 

 

 

 

Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes

 

 

[Guest guest]

hi, becky! welcome to the group!

 

melody

 

 

http://www.melodysmusic.net

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you feel that you would like to be vegan again, why don't you try doing

it when at your own home and being more relaxed about it when you are with

family. That has worked well for me. I don't have any eggs or milk

products at home but when I eat at my parents' home I will eat the

vegetarian offerings. Nowadays, my mom makes a conscious effort to have

dairy and egg free foods because my youngest child is allergic to them.

 

Jacqueline

 

-

" ksmama81 " <ksmama81

 

Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:25 PM

new

 

 

>

>

>

> Hello! I'm a 23 year old mom of a 2 year old. I'm not with his

> father, which makes the whole diet thing a problem. I tried being

> vegan for awhile, but with my limited budget and lack of time it was

> kind of hard. Plus I come from a meat & potatoes family. Not very

> supportive, make jokes, etc. How do you guys do it?

>

>

>

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

>

> edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome! I know how feel regarding an unsupporting family.It has gotten to point

for me that I don't go to thier house for diner at all.Sometimes i swear they

purposefully put meat into dishes that are otherwise vegetarian just to create

an issue out my diet.I too have vegan aspirations but have found making that

adjustment very difficult.I would suggest bringing your own meals if family

functions are necessary around dinner time.In my experience as much as everyone

jokes and insults my choice of being vegetarian they just can't refuse the meals

I bring over.They are usually a big hit.Although the weight that I have lost

since changing my diet,especially after just having my second child,has slowed

some of those comments and they now ask me about being vegetarian.Sometimes our

families are our worst critics.I hope they are supportive in other ares of your

life.

 

ksmama81 <ksmama81 wrote:

 

Hello! I'm a 23 year old mom of a 2 year old. I'm not with his

father, which makes the whole diet thing a problem. I tried being

vegan for awhile, but with my limited budget and lack of time it was

kind of hard. Plus I come from a meat & potatoes family. Not very

supportive, make jokes, etc. How do you guys do it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Kasmama;

 

I have been vegetarian for over 20 years - I also had a very mean father who

chastised for becoming vegetarian. It is simple to stay the course - being

vegetarian is a life style - a belief it encompasses the whole person. If you

truely understand why you are a vegetarian it is easy to get passed the nay

sayers - I have a beautiful 14 yr old and a handsome 10 yr old- they love being

vegetarian. They are proud that they don't eat meat and they like being

different. When I married my husband 19 yrs ago he knew that we would all be

vegetarian. It has become part of us.

 

If however you personally don't know why you want to be vegetarian - you won't

stick to it. So it is important to be true to yourself. And take comfort in

knowing that a vegetarian and or vegan lifestyle will not only benefit you and

your child but the world and all living things that inhabit it.

 

Peace

and have a beautiful Turkey free holiday

 

 

Lauren

 

ksmama81 <ksmama81 wrote:

 

 

 

Hello! I'm a 23 year old mom of a 2 year old. I'm not with his

father, which makes the whole diet thing a problem. I tried being

vegan for awhile, but with my limited budget and lack of time it was

kind of hard. Plus I come from a meat & potatoes family. Not very

supportive, make jokes, etc. How do you guys do it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am a 22 yr old single mother of a 3yr old boy. He has been a vegetarian since

before he was born because I was already a vegetarian for 4 yrs. beforehand. I

can tell you that it is hard and it something that is done one day at a time.

The way that I look at it though is that my son's health is worth it especially

with a very big family history with food-related illness (diabetes, heart

disease, etc.). He's already a vegetarian but also has lactose intolerance so he

would almost be vegan except for the fact that he does eat eggs. It can be

expensive but I have found that if make big meals and freeze them into smaller

portions and combine with different dinners it works. For example I can make a

pot of beans 1st day for veggie chili, 2nd day bean soup, and the 3rd day

refried beans and rice. A 1lb bag of dry beans can make 3-4 meals for 2 people.

Good Luck!

 

 

 

ksmama81 <ksmama81 wrote:

 

 

Hello! I'm a 23 year old mom of a 2 year old. I'm not with his

father, which makes the whole diet thing a problem. I tried being

vegan for awhile, but with my limited budget and lack of time it was

kind of hard. Plus I come from a meat & potatoes family. Not very

supportive, make jokes, etc. How do you guys do it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Melissa wrote:

 

<<Sometimes i swear they purposefully put meat into dishes that are

otherwise vegetarian just to create an issue out my diet.>>

 

I hear ya!!!

 

This sounds like the perfect segue into a fun side topic, just in time

for all the family- & -food holidays coming up. What have you been

served, that could easily have been vegetarian and yet wasn't, by

people who knew full well they were serving a vegetarian?

 

1) My aunt, knowing about 1/4 of the family guests to her holiday

buffet would be vegetarian, and one of those vegetarians had just come

out of rehab, served enough food for 25 people despite the fact the

only thing vegetarian (and not vegan, btw) was bourbon-laced mashed

sweet potatoes (no, my cousin wasn't warned until I realized and ran

over to him just in time).

 

2) The Spanish restaurant that offered " vegetarian paella " which made

me so sick that I called up to confirm the ingredients, and of course,

it had been made with some sort of animal-based stock.

 

3) I was in a rural downstate town, where the only restaurant was a

Bob Evans. I explained to the waitress that I was a vegetarian, so

could I have their (listed on the menu) side dish offer, of 3 vegetable

side dishes on one plate? The green beans had bacon in them, etc. etc.

They couldn't even serve vegetables without pork products in them!

 

Anyone else??

 

Liz

[Guest guest]

Dear Melissa

 

It is not just as simple as bring your own food. One time when I went out with

my children and husband, we have problem to settle on which restaurant.

 

We came to one vegetarian restaurant and the food were lovely.

But my children walked away. I followed them out to another restaurant, which

was non-vegetarian. I looked for vegetarian food but they did not serve. At the

end, I went back to the vegetarian restaurant and had my lunch alone there.

 

I feel sad that my family cannot eat at one table because of this problem.

 

regards

chay loon, from Singapore

-

melissa tritchler

Friday, November 12, 2004 5:01 AM

Re: new

 

 

 

Welcome! I know how feel regarding an unsupporting family.It has gotten to

point for me that I don't go to thier house for diner at all.Sometimes i swear

they purposefully put meat into dishes that are otherwise vegetarian just to

create an issue out my diet.I too have vegan aspirations but have found making

that adjustment very difficult.I would suggest bringing your own meals if family

functions are necessary around dinner time.In my experience as much as everyone

jokes and insults my choice of being vegetarian they just can't refuse the meals

I bring over.They are usually a big hit.Although the weight that I have lost

since changing my diet,especially after just having my second child,has slowed

some of those comments and they now ask me about being vegetarian.Sometimes our

families are our worst critics.I hope they are supportive in other ares of your

life.

 

ksmama81 <ksmama81 wrote:

 

Hello! I'm a 23 year old mom of a 2 year old. I'm not with his

father, which makes the whole diet thing a problem. I tried being

vegan for awhile, but with my limited budget and lack of time it was

kind of hard. Plus I come from a meat & potatoes family. Not very

supportive, make jokes, etc. How do you guys do it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thats too funny! I'm still new and learning more all the time. I've been

vegetarian for right around 8 months now. I found a great french onion soup in

a bread bowl at Panera and ordered several times only to learn that its made

with beef broth! Gross! -t

 

Elizabeth Bakwin <bakwin wrote:

Melissa wrote:

 

<<Sometimes i swear they purposefully put meat into dishes that are

otherwise vegetarian just to create an issue out my diet.>>

 

I hear ya!!!

 

This sounds like the perfect segue into a fun side topic, just in time

for all the family- & -food holidays coming up. What have you been

served, that could easily have been vegetarian and yet wasn't, by

people who knew full well they were serving a vegetarian?

 

1) My aunt, knowing about 1/4 of the family guests to her holiday

buffet would be vegetarian, and one of those vegetarians had just come

out of rehab, served enough food for 25 people despite the fact the

only thing vegetarian (and not vegan, btw) was bourbon-laced mashed

sweet potatoes (no, my cousin wasn't warned until I realized and ran

over to him just in time).

 

2) The Spanish restaurant that offered " vegetarian paella " which made

me so sick that I called up to confirm the ingredients, and of course,

it had been made with some sort of animal-based stock.

 

3) I was in a rural downstate town, where the only restaurant was a

Bob Evans. I explained to the waitress that I was a vegetarian, so

could I have their (listed on the menu) side dish offer, of 3 vegetable

side dishes on one plate? The green beans had bacon in them, etc. etc.

They couldn't even serve vegetables without pork products in them!

 

Anyone else??

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

this is a great topic! I can't wait to hear everyone's experience. I must say- I

think I have been pretty lucky. I don't have any family, well at least none I

spend time with(it is only my mom and sister. I never see my sister and my mom

and I rarely ever get together) so I can't really say I have anything like that

happen. well- I guess for my daughter. my mother gave her chicken noodle soup

once. I was furious!! she had and could have gave her other soups. my girl was

only two or three and didn't know any better, now though- don't even try to fool

her! she will let you have it! c

-

Elizabeth Bakwin<bakwin

< >

Friday, November 12, 2004 10:33 AM

Re: new

 

 

 

Melissa wrote:

 

<<Sometimes i swear they purposefully put meat into dishes that are

otherwise vegetarian just to create an issue out my diet.>>

 

I hear ya!!!

 

This sounds like the perfect segue into a fun side topic, just in time

for all the family- & -food holidays coming up. What have you been

served, that could easily have been vegetarian and yet wasn't, by

people who knew full well they were serving a vegetarian?

 

1) My aunt, knowing about 1/4 of the family guests to her holiday

buffet would be vegetarian, and one of those vegetarians had just come

out of rehab, served enough food for 25 people despite the fact the

only thing vegetarian (and not vegan, btw) was bourbon-laced mashed

sweet potatoes (no, my cousin wasn't warned until I realized and ran

over to him just in time).

 

2) The Spanish restaurant that offered " vegetarian paella " which made

me so sick that I called up to confirm the ingredients, and of course,

it had been made with some sort of animal-based stock.

 

3) I was in a rural downstate town, where the only restaurant was a

Bob Evans. I explained to the waitress that I was a vegetarian, so

could I have their (listed on the menu) side dish offer, of 3 vegetable

side dishes on one plate? The green beans had bacon in them, etc. etc.

They couldn't even serve vegetables without pork products in them!

 

Anyone else??

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org<http://www.vrg.org/> and for materials especially useful for

families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This<http://www.vrg.org/family.This> is

a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice.

Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Every time we go to my mother in laws she asks why the kids aren't eating the

meat.....and every time I say because they don't like it. I know she does not

approve, but she does not approve of much when it comes to how we are raising

the three girls. She says stuff to my husband all the time, and of course my

husband has gotten sick of it and told her to back off. The girls are happy,

healthy, and active.....that's all that matters.

 

kelly

 

cristene bailey <maibee23 wrote:

 

this is a great topic! I can't wait to hear everyone's experience. I must say- I

think I have been pretty lucky. I don't have any family, well at least none I

spend time with(it is only my mom and sister. I never see my sister and my mom

and I rarely ever get together) so I can't really say I have anything like that

happen. well- I guess for my daughter. my mother gave her chicken noodle soup

once. I was furious!! she had and could have gave her other soups. my girl was

only two or three and didn't know any better, now though- don't even try to fool

her! she will let you have it! c

-

Elizabeth Bakwin<bakwin

< >

Friday, November 12, 2004 10:33 AM

Re: new

 

 

 

Melissa wrote:

 

<<Sometimes i swear they purposefully put meat into dishes that are

otherwise vegetarian just to create an issue out my diet.>>

 

I hear ya!!!

 

This sounds like the perfect segue into a fun side topic, just in time

for all the family- & -food holidays coming up. What have you been

served, that could easily have been vegetarian and yet wasn't, by

people who knew full well they were serving a vegetarian?

 

1) My aunt, knowing about 1/4 of the family guests to her holiday

buffet would be vegetarian, and one of those vegetarians had just come

out of rehab, served enough food for 25 people despite the fact the

only thing vegetarian (and not vegan, btw) was bourbon-laced mashed

sweet potatoes (no, my cousin wasn't warned until I realized and ran

over to him just in time).

 

2) The Spanish restaurant that offered " vegetarian paella " which made

me so sick that I called up to confirm the ingredients, and of course,

it had been made with some sort of animal-based stock.

 

3) I was in a rural downstate town, where the only restaurant was a

Bob Evans. I explained to the waitress that I was a vegetarian, so

could I have their (listed on the menu) side dish offer, of 3 vegetable

side dishes on one plate? The green beans had bacon in them, etc. etc.

They couldn't even serve vegetables without pork products in them!

 

Anyone else??

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org<http://www.vrg.org/> and for materials especially useful for

families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This<http://www.vrg.org/family.This> is

a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice.

Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

My second child was vegan for her first 18 months until my sister in law took

her to McDonalds and gve her chicken nuggets. She is now 7 and both her and my

10 yo are veg but not vegan. The baby is now 2months and will be vegan. I will

make sure that everyone in the fmaily is well aware of that before I let them

take her out.

Carol

 

cristene bailey <maibee23 wrote:

 

this is a great topic! I can't wait to hear everyone's experience. I must say- I

think I have been pretty lucky. I don't have any family, well at least none I

spend time with(it is only my mom and sister. I never see my sister and my mom

and I rarely ever get together) so I can't really say I have anything like that

happen. well- I guess for my daughter. my mother gave her chicken noodle soup

once. I was furious!! she had and could have gave her other soups. my girl was

only two or three and didn't know any better, now though- don't even try to fool

her! she will let you have it! c

-

Elizabeth Bakwin<bakwin

< >

Friday, November 12, 2004 10:33 AM

Re: new

 

 

 

Melissa wrote:

 

<<Sometimes i swear they purposefully put meat into dishes that are

otherwise vegetarian just to create an issue out my diet.>>

 

I hear ya!!!

 

This sounds like the perfect segue into a fun side topic, just in time

for all the family- & -food holidays coming up. What have you been

served, that could easily have been vegetarian and yet wasn't, by

people who knew full well they were serving a vegetarian?

 

1) My aunt, knowing about 1/4 of the family guests to her holiday

buffet would be vegetarian, and one of those vegetarians had just come

out of rehab, served enough food for 25 people despite the fact the

only thing vegetarian (and not vegan, btw) was bourbon-laced mashed

sweet potatoes (no, my cousin wasn't warned until I realized and ran

over to him just in time).

 

2) The Spanish restaurant that offered " vegetarian paella " which made

me so sick that I called up to confirm the ingredients, and of course,

it had been made with some sort of animal-based stock.

 

3) I was in a rural downstate town, where the only restaurant was a

Bob Evans. I explained to the waitress that I was a vegetarian, so

could I have their (listed on the menu) side dish offer, of 3 vegetable

side dishes on one plate? The green beans had bacon in them, etc. etc.

They couldn't even serve vegetables without pork products in them!

 

Anyone else??

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Panera lists which soups are veg on the menu board. They offer several

varieties. I think the garden vegetable and the black bean are vegan but I

wouldn't swear to it.

Carol

 

TRACIE castleman <traciec62 wrote:

 

Thats too funny! I'm still new and learning more all the time. I've been

vegetarian for right around 8 months now. I found a great french onion soup in

a bread bowl at Panera and ordered several times only to learn that its made

with beef broth! Gross! -t

 

Elizabeth Bakwin <bakwin wrote:

Melissa wrote:

 

<<Sometimes i swear they purposefully put meat into dishes that are

otherwise vegetarian just to create an issue out my diet.>>

 

I hear ya!!!

 

This sounds like the perfect segue into a fun side topic, just in time

for all the family- & -food holidays coming up. What have you been

served, that could easily have been vegetarian and yet wasn't, by

people who knew full well they were serving a vegetarian?

 

1) My aunt, knowing about 1/4 of the family guests to her holiday

buffet would be vegetarian, and one of those vegetarians had just come

out of rehab, served enough food for 25 people despite the fact the

only thing vegetarian (and not vegan, btw) was bourbon-laced mashed

sweet potatoes (no, my cousin wasn't warned until I realized and ran

over to him just in time).

 

2) The Spanish restaurant that offered " vegetarian paella " which made

me so sick that I called up to confirm the ingredients, and of course,

it had been made with some sort of animal-based stock.

 

3) I was in a rural downstate town, where the only restaurant was a

Bob Evans. I explained to the waitress that I was a vegetarian, so

could I have their (listed on the menu) side dish offer, of 3 vegetable

side dishes on one plate? The green beans had bacon in them, etc. etc.

They couldn't even serve vegetables without pork products in them!

 

Anyone else??

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I guess I have been lucky here. Both mine and my husband's family

are very supportive of us being vegetarian and always do their best

to provide us with veg friendly meals when we visit. The biggest

problem I have run in to is restaraunts who just don't get it:

 

" oh yes this soup is vegetarian - its made with chicken stock but it

doesn't have any pieces of chicken in it "

 

" what's vegetarian on the menu? well we have fish.... "

 

" I'm vegan so could you make sure there is no egg, no cheese, no

ranch dressing on the salad " - it arrives at the table with BACON

BITS!

 

vegetables with bacon or pork in them.

 

rice made with chicken stock

 

sending a dish back because they forgot to leave out the chicken,

cheese, etc and the EXACT SAME dish returning with the offending

item picked out (instead of preparing a new dish without it)

 

> Melissa wrote:

>

What have you been

> served, that could easily have been vegetarian and yet wasn't,

by

> people who knew full well they were serving a vegetarian?

[Guest guest]

You're right Carol, both the black bean and garden vegetable soups at Panera

are vegan - at least according to what they told me. They are both yummy.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

[Guest guest]

Bacos is vegan. But then how do you know its really

bacos and not " real " bacon bits.

I have said on many occasions though if I wanted

something picked out I could pick it out myself. I

want something that hasn't been contaminated in the

first place.

Renee

 

--- smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote:

 

>

>

> I guess I have been lucky here. Both mine and my

> husband's family

> are very supportive of us being vegetarian and

> always do their best

> to provide us with veg friendly meals when we visit.

> The biggest

> problem I have run in to is restaraunts who just

> don't get it:

>

> " oh yes this soup is vegetarian - its made with

> chicken stock but it

> doesn't have any pieces of chicken in it "

>

> " what's vegetarian on the menu? well we have

> fish.... "

>

> " I'm vegan so could you make sure there is no egg,

> no cheese, no

> ranch dressing on the salad " - it arrives at the

> table with BACON

> BITS!

>

> vegetables with bacon or pork in them.

>

> rice made with chicken stock

>

> sending a dish back because they forgot to leave out

> the chicken,

> cheese, etc and the EXACT SAME dish returning with

> the offending

> item picked out (instead of preparing a new dish

> without it)

>

> > Melissa wrote:

> >

> What have you been

> > served, that could easily have been vegetarian

> and yet wasn't,

> by

> > people who knew full well they were serving a

> vegetarian?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

=====

" These poor deluded creatures cannot see that universal peace is absolutely

impossible to a carnivorous race " - Anna Kingsford

 

 

 

 

 

The all-new My - Get yours free!

 

[Guest guest]

I have had all of this, also!! I just have to laugh at it now. you're right ppl

have no clue! my fav is the " oh it's veg- just made with chkn stock " . people

kill me. this is why I focus my time and effort on animals. c

-

smartgirl27us<thesmartfamily3

< >

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:43 PM

Re: new

 

 

 

 

I guess I have been lucky here. Both mine and my husband's family

are very supportive of us being vegetarian and always do their best

to provide us with veg friendly meals when we visit. The biggest

problem I have run in to is restaraunts who just don't get it:

 

" oh yes this soup is vegetarian - its made with chicken stock but it

doesn't have any pieces of chicken in it "

 

" what's vegetarian on the menu? well we have fish.... "

 

" I'm vegan so could you make sure there is no egg, no cheese, no

ranch dressing on the salad " - it arrives at the table with BACON

BITS!

 

vegetables with bacon or pork in them.

 

rice made with chicken stock

 

sending a dish back because they forgot to leave out the chicken,

cheese, etc and the EXACT SAME dish returning with the offending

item picked out (instead of preparing a new dish without it)

 

> Melissa wrote:

>

What have you been

> served, that could easily have been vegetarian and yet wasn't,

by

> people who knew full well they were serving a vegetarian?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org<http://www.vrg.org/> and for materials especially useful for

families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This<http://www.vrg.org/family.This> is

a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice.

Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

hi Mounika,

i hope your apartment is near Devon. i love that part of

Chicago because of the energy and great vegetarian food.

check out Bhobia's Kitchen just south of Devon on

Oakley. the owner is a fine man about 50 who came here

30 year's ago from Southern India. we ordered several items

the eggplant was amazing as were the breads. go in there

and talk to him. it's inexpensive and delish. be well, Ross

-==-=--==-=-=--==-=-=--=-=-=-==--==--=-=-==-

spiky gourd (kantola) -- this is a cousin of bitter gourd( karela).

its not bitter though, has a very distinctive flavor and is a

seasonal vegetable available only in winter . It is one of my fav

veggies.

 

lotus root

drumsticks

green unripe jackfruit

snake gourd

bottle gourd

ribbed gourd

bitter gourd

parval

cluster beans

broad beans

banana blossoms

a spl variety of yam

 

and some leafy vegetables ( have to do some research to come up with

their english or botanical names ).

 

you can do a search on these to see some pictures on web. we can

get frozen and canned versions of these here but the taste is no

where near the fresh ones.I do get few of them fresh in indian

grocery stores(Devon ave) in Chicago. I think they are also

available in parts of California, NewJersey, Florida and Texas.Don't

know if they are available elsewhere.

 

-Mounika

 

0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0Less Bush More Trees0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0

I have found nothing better for good health than silence; study

is not the most important thing but meditation practice;

and whoever talks too much, mostly spoils the moment.

~ RossCannon ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~>

[Guest guest]

Hi Wirpel, Deb again:) I know what you mean by the smells of meat and

charring meat being offensive. I get ill just being in the car with my

son when he eats a breakfast sandwich! Tooooo gross:( Yesterday was

really awful - he and a friend of mine were eating smoked sausage rolls,

and their breath was absolutely rank! I don't even like walking past

the meat section in the grocery store - can't stand the smell or the

sight of it. It amazes me though, that people raise their children on a

meat-eating tradition and never give thought to the fact that they are

consuming a dead carcass. I know I never thought about it - I was

raised eating meat, but always wanted more veggies, and the father of my

kids was adamant about having meat at least three times a day:( He

insisted that the kids would eat meat, and they do. My daughter took

almost two years to develop a taste for it, and he was an abusive,

controlling ass that wouldn't take no for an answer - he couldn't fathom

that the children didn't necessarily have his tastes/preferences, so he

would force feed them when they didn't like/want what was put in front

of them. Thankfully we divorced 15 years ago:) My daughter is leaning

toward lacto-ovo vegetarianism now, but my boys and wonderful new

husband are meat eaters, although not at every meal, thankfully. It

makes meal times interesting, and many times my husband eats vegan-style

with me. I think I would flex back and forth in the past, because I

couldn't get my diet balanced right - but I'm much more stable with it

now - no sugar swings these days:)

 

 

 

 

 

Debra Lee Thompson

 

Analyst - Mortgage I

 

First Horizon Home Loans Corporation

 

debrathompson <debrathompson

 

214.492.7402

 

wirpel [wirpel]

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:39 PM

New

 

 

 

 

 

Let me introduce myself. I have always been a vegetarian in my

heart. In my stomach, since...

 

When I was a child, in the '50s, I remember ordering " spare

ribs " in a restaurant, thinking that was ok because they were spare; the

animal hadn't needed them. In the early '60s, I told my mother I was

going to be a vegetarian. She either didn't get it, or wouldn't. Meat

was basically manditory... and so was washing bloody pans. Circa 1968,

I saw a movie called Sweet November. One character, a vegetarian, was

icluded in a Thanksgiving dinner with a jello-mold turkey. I guess no

fact-checker looked up ground animal hoofs. Nonetheless, I was

inspired. In early 1969, at a restuarant called Ratso's, in Chicago,

looking at all the salads on the menu, I announced I was a vegetarian.

And, except for once, in the late '70s, when at a dinner party where the

hostess, who hadn't been warned that I wouldn't eat meat, was crushed

that I wouldn't taste what she had been cooking all day. So, I did.

(Yes, it made me ill).

 

I am offended by the smoke and smells from charring flesh.

 

I've also noticed that wild animals, often prey, are not afraid

of me. I must not smell like a meat-consuming preditor!

 

So, that's me. Who are you?