Suspicious minds

[Guest guest]

Hm. Doesn't make me suspicious. I think the dogma or

common link of belief would be the acceptance of a higher

power or a god. I might be wrong though.

 

Humanism is atheistic so that would be the difference.

I used to frequent religion debate forums and found them

both interesting and informative when people discussing the

subject could remain civil and kind. Unfortunately this was all

too rare and I soon tired of the process and began reading the

subjects that interested me on my own.

 

~ PT ~

 

Dare to be naive.

~ Buckminster Fuller

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, The Stewarts <stews9@c...>

wrote:

> Then what makes it Quakerism, per se, as opposed to, say, secular

humanism?

> No one has yet adequately explained what special quality or set of

> qualities makes for a Quaker, if indeed they encourage

free-thinking.

> There has to be a common link, some shared basic, and in this we

shall

> find the dogma.

> That they assiduously avoid mentioning their dogma leads one to

suspicions.

[Guest guest]

Hello, I think Quakerism started and still is Christian. When I went to a

Friends Church 20 years ago in Long Beach, Ca. they used Bibles. The fact is

most Christian Churches today do not stick to the literal word, as Harold

Camping of Family Radio would tell you by the way. The for example would be that

the Bible forbids homosexuality but now they sort of overlook those scriptures

and try to make it more humanistic which God himself might not necessarily be.

Jack S.--- On Tue 02/18, ~ P_T ~ & lt; patchouli_troll & gt; wrote:

~ P_T ~ [ patchouli_troll]To:

: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:03:01 -0000Subject:

Re: Suspicious mindsHm. Doesn't make me suspicious. I think

the dogma orcommon link of belief would be the acceptance of a higher power or a

god. I might be wrong though.Humanism is atheistic so that would be the

difference.I used to frequent religion debate forums and found themboth

interesting and informative when people discussing thesubject could remain civil

and kind. Unfortunately this was alltoo rare and I soon tired of the process and

began reading thesubjects that interested me on my own. ~ PT ~Dare to be naive.~

Buckminster Fuller~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~ & gt;--- In

, The Stewarts wrote: & gt; Then what makes it

Quakerism, per se, as opposed to, say, secular humanism? & gt; No one has yet

adequately explained what special quality or set of & gt; qualities makes for a

Quaker, if indeed they encouragefree-thinking. & gt; There has to be a common

link, some shared basic, and in this weshall & gt; find the dogma. & gt; That they

assiduously avoid mentioning their dogma leads one to suspicions.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

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" Jack Styger " <selenasking

 

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:26 AM

Re: Suspicious minds

 

 

> Hello, I think Quakerism started and still is Christian.

 

It started with Christianity, but how Christian it still is depends on where

one goes, what the feeling of the Meeting in question is, if you follow.

Many people do refer to their Quakerism as Christian. I don't, but that is

mostly because I don't find certain aspects of Christianity, which many

Christians find important (the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection, and so on),

don't mean anything to me. As well, Quakers tend, in my experience, to

believe that there is truth in all religions - one could certainly be a

Buddhist Quaker, if one felt so drawn, for example. However, whether or not

it is a Christian religion does not speak to the question of dogma, IMO.

 

> When I went to a Friends Church 20 years ago in Long Beach, Ca. they used

Bibles.

 

Bibles will appear in many Quaker meeting houses and people will use them

for inspiration, however, there may also be books from other religions

equally available and used.

 

> The fact is most Christian Churches today do not stick to the literal

word,

 

This is true enough.

 

Lee-Gwen