Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 07:26 AM, (AT) (DOT) com wrote: > some people feel that they feel better on more protein > - for whatever reason - and that they can eat their regular vegetarian > diet (I am assuming here that they are vegetarians first, weight-loss > dieters second - a huge assumption, I agree) then they can feel better > on fewer calories *if* they up their intake of protein. Some people feel > protein gives them more energy - and that it's easier to reduce calories > if one has more energy. Yet it's carbs that make energy, not protein, so this is probably a subjective projection of bias . Also, one thing I have found, being lacto ovo veggie and diabetic, is that lowering carbs is difficult, and the protein sources one goes to tend to be very high in calories, thwarting weight loss. Also, exercising tends to make you hungrier... Vicious Circle, anyone? > The weight-loss diets devised by the > protein-happy medics work for other people, that is to say > non-vegetarians, they might reason, so they then try to adapt their own > vegetarian habits to these diets - or vice versa. > > Whether or not that reasoning is sensible, I dunno. Seems okay to me, but then, I'm a loon. > I am not speaking of > myself here - except that I do feel better if I remind myself to eat > high-protein foods at meals, such as beans, lentils, etc. It might be > purely psychological, of course - but hey if it works it works ;=) That's right to an extent, as long as our subjective benefits aren't being undermined by slow, long-term detriments. > > Whaddaya think? > > best, > pat > When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber. --Sir Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 *****Pat wrote..... >>...that lowering carbs is difficult<< If that's the only thing being changed, I can see why. It seems that our perception of food is not as fats/prot/carb but as a total package of tastes/smells/visuals. Simply removing the carbs destroys the package, and most aren't willing to do that without feeling depravation from one of the senses or feeling hunger. In your case, the removal is for diabetic purposes. So, simply convert to eating carbs that are low on the GI (glycemic index) scale. This way there's no glucose spike and no insulin response. >>...the protein sources...tend to be very high in calories, thwarting weight loss...<< Protein has the same calorie count per gram as do carbs. If the calories are too high, reduce the portion size. Maybe there's other things in your protein besides protein. When I choose a menu, I first determine the carbs. From there I adjust the fat and prot in the meal to keep me in the zone. So, I guess I'm saying that I don't count calories since it's my belief that being in the zone is the better place to be. >>...exercising tends to make you hungrier...<< Our bodies always seek to maintain homeostasis or balance. You burn up energy, and if you reduce your energy storehouse below a certain level, the brain releases the " hunger " hormones to induce you to add more energy. (There really is not a hunger hormone. That wording was used only to make the point.) The idea of homeostatis has a number of implication in our diet, but for now I won't belabor the point. >>...Vicious Circle, anyone?<< You betcha!! But, after what's already been written, I'm not going there. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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