Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 Laura: Thank you for your very kind, considerate, tactful and helpful e-mail. I have read it from start to finish and agree with everything that you have said. We have people in the group who are all ages, sexes, races, and nationalities. We are all here for our own reasons. It is interesting to see how different people think differently. It would be wrong of me to attempt to change everyone's thinking to agree with mine. That would also be a futile and rediculous task. I believe it is more beneficial to me to learn that I cannot change other people. The spiritual message I saw in your posting was to Live And Let Live; i.e., to let other people define vegan any way they want. It is important to me to reiterate that I am not here to have someone else define vegan for me, however. Likewise, I'm not here to have anyone tell me how to eat or how to live. That goes without saying. I'm quite sure that no fist-fights or law suits will come from any such differences of opinion. Probably the best thing for a thin-skinned person to do is ignore my postings. I do likewise with the postings that I do not care for. By taking issue with my postings, or anyone elses, a small issue becomes a bigger one. Ron McClure --- Laura Moore <child_of_the_80s wrote: > Hi Ron, > sorry its taken me a while to reply to this mail but > i was so busy i forgot > to check my email (i can only access the computer > evenings and weekends). > Anyway, of course i don't mind you bringing your own > ideas to the group. > Thats what its for, a forum to discuss these kinds > of issues. As i said > before, the group is not just about weight loss but > also about the broader > aspects of health and well being. So, forget the > name of the group, maybe i > should rename it " vegetarian health, wellbeing and > weight loss " . But thats > beside the point, the name's not important. > I agree that diet and exercise, along with the right > frame of mind and > positive thinking are the keys to not only a healthy > life, but also a happy > life. And you're not alone in wanting support with > sticking to thses > things. Hopefully this group is going to be able to > offer you some support > in your pursuit of health and happiness. But as, i > think DaveO said > recently to the other Laura, we can't help you > unless you tell us how. If > there is anything you think we can do that we aren't > now then feel free to > ask for help. > If you do want to start your own group at anytime it > is fairly simple. > Simply go to the homepage and click on start > my own group and it > guides you through the process step by step. It is > important though to > invite people to join your group, otherwise you may > not have many members > (simply because people can't find it). > As for my new group, i'm not sure that i like the > word " influence " . You are > an interesting and valued member and of course you > are more than welcome to > post messages and ask for advice or support. I > sincerely hope that you do, > but i do have one concern. This is thus: we have > many group members, and > everyone joined the group for different reasons. > Some people are very > healthy and just want to lose a few pounds, others, > like yourself, have > joined for health concerns. I am somewhere in the > middle. The main thing > is that i do not want to alienate any of the members > through concentrating > purely on your style of diet. > Therefore i propose this. I will continue to post > messages on dieting, > health and wellbeing, and also continue posting low > fat healthy vegetarian > recipes, as i'm sure many of the members (including > myself) are interested > in these things - and this is what i started the > group for in the first > place. Do other group members agree with this? > If you could just ignore the postings which are not > relevant to you, this > would probably be the easiest solution. > Thanks for the email Ron, i hope you are feeling > well today, > Laura (uk) > > > >Ron McClure > To: > > Subject: > Vegetarian > >Slimming Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:51:49 -0800 (PST) > > > >Laura: > > > >I've just joined your new group. Hope you don't > mind. I bring my own ideas > >to the group, however: I believe that anyone > interested primarily in weight > >loss is taking a myopic approach to what should be > health and wellness. A > >healthy person is not fat. A well person does not > have hypertension, > >diabetes or cardiovascular disease--and probably > never will. > > > >I think the way to health and wellness begins with > diet and exercise, and > >perhaps right thinking, emotional serenity, > spirituality or something like > >that. And I find all these things very difficult to > do on my own. I'm > >looking for a support group. In fact, if I had a > computer and understood > >this internet stuff, I would probably start my own > group. Since I don't > >have all those things, would you mind if I try to > influence your group? > > > >Ron McClure > > > > > >--- " Laura " wrote: > If anyone is interested, i > have just set up a group > > >focussing on > vegetarian weight loss issues. I > couldn't find one > to join > >anywhere > on so thought i'd fill the gap. If > you are > interested in > > > joining the address is: > > > >/ > > > I noticed a few of > >you mentioning wanting to lose > weight, and i'm > > sure there are people > >out there wanting to lose that > excess weight > > after all those mince > >pies, so hopefully the group > will be useful. > > > Take care, > > Laura > >(uk) x > > > > > > > > > > >Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. > > _______________ > Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months > FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 *****Ron wrote.... >>...best thing for a thin-skinned person to do is ignore my postings.<< It's not about being thin-skinned!! It's about communicating accurate, useful information to those who don't really know what the terms mean. I've been veggie for over 20 years, and I'm proud of how my life has embraced the ideas and concepts involved with " not eating meat. " Here's the bottom line--you get to choose if you want " to eat meat or not. " You do not get to confuse and mislead others into thinking that your diet is " any kind of vegan, " when in fact you are " barely vegetarian. " Enough said! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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