Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 In a message dated 01/06/2003 11:40:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, rlmftw writes: > My simple, general rule is > that I can eat any bean, whole grain, fruit or > vegetable except seeds, nuts, soy, olives and > avocadoes, which are all high fat foods. But isn't it true that these things contain the " good " kind of fat and that one should just keep them in moderation not necessarily avoid them? I understand that fat is fat but one does need some of the good stuff. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Dave: Your comments on sugars and glycerides make me feel that I need to be an intellectual just eat safely--even if I'm not a diabetic. For someone who doesn't have time or inclination to check the reference books before every meal, would you say that it is safe to eat fresh fruits and vegetables? I'm hypoglycemic (prediabetic) and I am trying to get my total cholesterol, triglycerides and total lipids down (100 to 120) in order to reverse atherosclerotic occlusion(s) that I suspect to be in my coronary arteries, though my health problems have not been diagnosed by a doctor. My simple, general rule is that I can eat any bean, whole grain, fruit or vegetable except seeds, nuts, soy, olives and avocadoes, which are all high fat foods. I'm abstaining from all animal protein, cholesterol, fats and oils, as well as cigarettes, alcohol, prescription drugs, simple sugar(s), sugar substitutes, artificial sweeteners, refined carbohydrates and coffee. I have tried to simplify my diet and exercise rules as much as possible. I would be interested in your comments. Ron McClure --- daveo <daveo wrote: > > > The Stewarts [stews9] > Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:48 PM > > Sugar, Sugar > > >>I'm a diabetic and must count my TOTAL > carbohydrates, all of which go to > sugar. > > >>However, refined sugars almost instantly spike the > blood sugar levels, > whereas complex carbohydrates are digested more > slowly and so elevate the > blood sugar gradually. It's much healthier. > > >>Speed counts. > > >>So given the choice between an apple and a piece > of candy cane, go for the > > apple. All other nutrition aside, this will help > your blood sugar levels > remain more stable, which is important even for non > diabetics.<< > > This is good info about diabetic responses, however, > it's only part of what > happens. See, " The Glucose Revolution " (by Jennie > Brand-Miller, and others) > for the rest of the story. It seems that quite a > few foods will spike a > glucose response (i.e, " instantly spike the blood > sugar levels " ). To be > completely accurate, diabetics should avoid *all* > high G.I. (glycemic index) > foods, which includes anything over 70 on the GI > index. Glucose = 100 on > the GI index. > > Here's a list of some common high GI foods: > Kellogg's Corn Flakes (84), > short grained white rice (72), bagel (72), rye bread > (76), Crispbread (81), > vanilla wafers (77), parsnips (97), baked potato > (93), french fry (75), > pumpkin (75), broad beans (79), dried dates (103), > watermelon (72), gatorade > (78), corn chips (72), jelly beans (80), french > bagette (95), gluten-free > bread (90), boiled potatoes (101), pretzels (83), > rice chex (89), rice > krispies (82), shredded wheat (83), team flakes > (82), Tofu frozen dessert > (115). > > Now, here's all the sugars: fructose (23), glucose > (100), honey (58), > lactose (46), maltose (105), sucrose (65). So, I > would say that all sugars > are not the same,and that some foods have an > immediate effect on the body as > if they were sugar. > > The bottom line here is that these foods and many > others get into the blood > stream very quickly and thus spike the glucose > level. For most people, this > is not much of a problem, however, for diabetics, it > can be a really big > problem! > > Dave > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 ****Ron McClure wrote... >>Your comments on sugars and glycerides make me feel that I need to be an intellectual [to] just eat safely--even if I'm not a diabetic. >>For someone who doesn't have time or inclination to check the reference books...would you say that it is safe to eat fresh fruits and vegetables?<< As a layperson, I'd say that it's not a problem!! Most of the fruits and veggies, except for those I mentioned, are either low or medium on the GI scale. They are usually fine even for the diabetics who eat them. You subject line alludes to the problem some people will face with high GI foods, which spikes their bloodstream with high levels of glucose. Natural insulin from your body counteracts that spike to reduce your feelings of having a " sugar high. " Just one example of our wonderful body at work doing what it's suppose to do. >>I'm hypoglycemic (prediabetic)...<< If I were you, I'd avoid high GI foods or isolate them so you can monitor their effect on your body when you eat them. If they don't affect you, then don't worry. If they do, well that should be obvious. >>...My simple, general rule is that I can eat any bean, whole grain, fruit or vegetable except seeds, nuts, soy, olives and avocadoes, which are all high fat foods.<< The three macronutrients--fat, protein, and carbos--each have a simple yet specific purpose in our body. The fats are used to manage our hormones, protein is the building blocks for maintaining and repairing our body, and carbos are the energy source our body runs on. Significantly diminish one of the three macronutrients and you reduce the overall capability and functioning of your body to less than optimal. So, all of the foods on your " exclude list " are on my " include list " but in small quantities. >>...abstaining from animal protein, cholesterol, fats and oils, as well as cigarettes, alcohol, prescription drugs, simple sugar(s), sugar substitutes, artificial sweeteners, refined carbohydrates and coffee.<< To my knowledge, the only sources of outside cholesterol are animal based, which also includes animal flesh and some of their products like eggs, milk, and butter. It's important to keep in mind that cholesterol is a necessary part of our body composition. The problem occurs only when the combination of what your body produces and what you eat create levels that are too high. Certain foods in your diet will reduce the amount of cholesterol that your body produces. Reducing or eliminating the outside sources usually gets the most rapid response. >>...I would be interested in your comments.<< Except as noted, your choices seem quite reasonable to me. I hope this feedback helps. Good luck in recovering and maintaining your excellent health. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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