Meatland Propaganda

[Guest guest]

This is myth, in many cases. If they can't raise crops in their region,

how then do they feed any meat animals they're supposed to raise? Further,

it takes many times the amount of edible grain to make edible meat, so it'

s far more efficient to feed far more people with the grains and veggies,

anyhow.

 

 

On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 06:37 AM,

wrote:

 

> If one is a vegetarian for compassion reasons, then how can you jusify

> and nation starving to death when meat is there only option.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. "

 

--James Madison, April 20, 1795 (Works. Vol. 4, Pp. 492)

[Guest guest]

<< This is myth, in many cases. If they can't raise crops in their region,how

then do they feed any meat animals they're supposed to raise?>>

But not in all. I had a friend that worked in Kopan Napal for several years.The

regions that bordered Kathmandu Valley and were just below the Himalayan Mnts

were far more suited for certain livestock (And I am afraid my memory has gone

on this one- but it were certain types of goat and cow?) than that of any decent

output in crops. These particular types of farm animals could eat and stay

healthy on a fairly sparse roughage diet, which was much more practicle than

what they ever could have grown. From what I understand that was the situation

in much of this area including the very rough terrain of Tibet. Many people are

under the misconception that all Buddhists are vegetarians, but in Tibet, the

tradition does not allow them to support this as they are not able to get a

proper diet on Veggies alone.

BUT...I do see your point. I understand that there are a lot of misconceptions

out there in regard to meat vs crops.

With warm kindness,

Beth

PS_ And I am SO sorry for my lack of spell check. I don't know what is wrong

with this crazy thing. When I try and go to it, it just drives and drives and

will not check the document! :~)

 

 

tewarts <stews9 wrote:

This is myth, in many cases. If they can't raise crops in their region,

how then do they feed any meat animals they're supposed to raise? Further,

it takes many times the amount of edible grain to make edible meat, so it'

s far more efficient to feed far more people with the grains and veggies,

anyhow.

 

 

On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 06:37 AM,

wrote:

 

> If one is a vegetarian for compassion reasons, then how can you jusify

> and nation starving to death when meat is there only option.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. "

 

--James Madison, April 20, 1795 (Works. Vol. 4, Pp. 492)

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:41:33 -0600, you wrote:

 

>This is myth, in many cases. If they can't raise crops in their region,

>how then do they feed any meat animals they're supposed to raise? Further,

> it takes many times the amount of edible grain to make edible meat, so it'

>s far more efficient to feed far more people with the grains and veggies,

>anyhow.

>

 

I'm trying (without any success) to think of a way to say

politely: You don't know what you're talking about. I'm

sorry to be so blunt...but you don't know what you're

talking about. Being so uninformed and making positive (but

erroneous) statements can only hurt your cause, not help it.

 

Edible meat can be - often is - grass-fed ONLY. No grain.

I have often eaten grass-fed meat (hamburger, stew, etc.)

 

Have you never heard of deer-hunting? People around here

where I live (many, many people here) rely on deer-hunting

for their meat. That's the only meat they ever have. This

is a poor area (Appalachia) and many people here cannot

afford to buy meat. I can assure you that the deer are

never once grain-fed. Venison is considered by many to be a

gourmet item and deer manage to feed themselves well enough

to produce really excellent meat - without any grain at all.

 

In many other cases, edible meat comes from laying hens too

old to lay many eggs any more, or from elderly dairy cows.

In the case of old laying hens, they make great chicken soup

or stew. I've had chicken soup made from old hens, I know

this from personal experience.

 

Many areas of the world are too hilly (steep hills) for

crops. Goats in particular often do well there. Sheep are

very adaptable and live in many areas that can't be

cultivated too. The barren cold high moors of northern

England and Scotland aren't suitable for crops but support

millions of sheep. I've been to the northern moors in

England, I've seen the sheep.

 

Even cows can live on hills that can't be cultivated. The

area where I live is mountainous (and the soil is poor), but

it does support dairy cows in areas where crops cannot be

grown (too steep). When those cows are too old to be

efficient milk-producers, they are killed and eaten by the

farmer's families, probably as hamburger or stew: something

that doesn't require tender meat. This area could also

certainly support sheep and goats if the market for them

existed: there are in fact a few farmers around here who

keep sheep for wool and sell the wool.

 

Cows can manage to pick up a meagre living in the desert,

for God's sake. Don't you ever watch TV? Never seen the

herdsmen of the Sahel roaming the desert with their large

herds of cattle?

 

Pat

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