Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 ----- Forwarded Message ----- The Daily Raw Inspiration from Jinjee at TheGardenDiet.com <infoFri, November 13, 2009 3:26:14 PMThe Daily Raw Inspiration - Raw Drugs! Finally the scientific raw community is standing up and warning us about Raw Cacao! I absolutely love this talk that Dr. Brian Clement of The Hippocrates Health Institute in Florida gave about the dangers of Raw Cacao, and more particularly, how to get a real life instead of one that relies on stimulants!!!Interviewer: I remember reading somewhere in one of your articles that you don't recommend raw cacaoDr. Clement: That's for sure. Raw Cacao is a recreational food with a downside.Interviewer: Everything else I've read says its good for you.Dr. Clement: Of course, enthusiasts, people selling raw cacao are going to tell you it is good for you.Interviewer: Can you please tell me why you do not think of it as good....Dr. Clement: It is one of many "False Foods and Substances" (which is also the name of an article by Dr. Clement). There are many popular culture trends within the living food community. The pop culture trend of raw cacao is dangerous because chocolate, raw or not, is a stimulant and acts exactly like caffeine. Scientists at Florida Atlantic University told me that eating just 1 of the beans is like taking a gram of caffein.The reason we like these recreational foods is because we're really not ready to do what's right. We're not ready to eat what's going to build our bodies. We still want to have fun and we want to pacify our addictions. And nobody I know just eats raw chocolate. You put ungodly things that are high, high, high sugars like Agave syrup with it. Of course, the same people who tell you raw cacao is good are going to tell you Agave is low glycemic, is good for you. The real scientific community found that agave acts much the same way that corn syrup acts in your body. And so why you like it is because it is giving you a stimulant, its giving you a high, and its feeding your sugar monster. And just because someone who is not a scientist tells you that its good for you, you want to be pacified and go ahead and do it.My hope is that everyone gets to the point where food is no longer a recreational activity....That you get to the point where food is a fuel, and now you have fun in your life because you have a real life.....That food is no longer the ritual that gives us a high, gives us a kick, or pacifies a monster.....That we eat food and now we have life, we have fun, we have true recreation, we do sports, we're outside, we're with nature, we fall in love, we have good friendships, - that's what life's about. Its not food focused. Food focused is what I was at one point because I was trained by the culture that all of us live within and reside within that food was a social norm, that food was something you did to pacify your emotional state.... And so I became very good at it....I became 240 lbs. good at it!And the fact of the matter is until you develop a confidence in yourself, a security in yourself, and honor yourself, and understand yourself a little bit, and have the joy of life - you are going to use addictive substances like food. If food is not enough for you you'll go right on to booze, which is a drug, or even worse than that. And all of us seemlingly today want a stimulant to live, including raw chocolate and agave syrup, rather than becoming conscious enough so you don't need any of that and you're just enjoying that consciousness and just enjoying yourself because you see the goodness in life!To hear Dr. Clement's talk and for loads more information about the dangers of raw cacao visit....http://www.TheGardenDiet.com/cacao.htmlIn Joy!Jinjeehttp://www.TheGardenDiet.com The following physical address is associated with this mailing list: The Garden Diet226 W. Ojai Ave.Suite 101 #178Ojai, CA 93023You can email Jinjee at jinjeetalifero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 >Finally the scientific raw community is standing up and warning us about Raw Cacao! finally?? Brian, Gabriel Cousens, Doug Graham...all these folks have been anti-cacao for a long time. Gabriel has just softened his stance...probably pressure and possibly economics. He has strong partnerships with those who sell a lot of cacao (and tend to be the only ones touting it's superfood benefits.) Gabriel has always said that stevia is the only sweetener he recommends (not agave).As I often say....people eat because they are angry, lonely, tired, bored, stressed and occasionally because they are hungry. The key to permanently changing what you eat is to deal with the underlying emotions. That's actually the biggest part of detox. Food is only a part of it. hugs and greens,Sharon~~Sharon Greenspan~~ Dissolve Your Sugar Habit ~~ Boost Your Immunity ~~ Have More EnergyBoard Certified Holistic Health Practitioner301-816-0752 www.wildsuccess.us --for a healthy lifestylewww.wildsuccess.us/naturalzing --for healthy snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Happy Thanksgiving, do you think cacao in moderation, like once or twice a month is okay? I'm addicted to brownies (twice a month) and chocolate cake (once every 6 months), but for Easter I may make chocolate, and chocolate ice cream in the summer.Besides it being all about the money, how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community? Is it the misconception that eating 100% raw is already so healthy that a little bit of a less than 100% healthy chocolate is okay? I have never used cacao on a daily basis, but I have also never experienced any effect from it either, and my kids are not allowed much at all. My body is great at telling me when I have had enough, and that is what is key! I also think it is great that leaders in the community step up and say what is good and what is not.Enjoy your Holiday! ChellySent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry Sharon Greenspan <sharonTue, 24 Nov 2009 12:32:02 -0500Cc: 12steps raw<12stepstorawfood >Re: The Daily Raw Inspiration - Raw Drugs! >Finally the scientific raw community is standing up and warning us about Raw Cacao! finally?? Brian, Gabriel Cousens, Doug Graham...all these folks have been anti-cacao for a long time. Gabriel has just softened his stance...probably pressure and possibly economics. He has strong partnerships with those who sell a lot of cacao (and tend to be the only ones touting it's superfood benefits.)Gabriel has always said that stevia is the only sweetener he recommends (not agave).As I often say....people eat because they are angry, lonely, tired, bored, stressed and occasionally because they are hungry. The key to permanently changing what you eat is to deal with the underlying emotions. That's actually the biggest part of detox. Food is only a part of it.hugs and greens,Sharon~~Sharon Greenspan~~ Dissolve Your Sugar Habit ~~ Boost Your Immunity ~~ Have More EnergyBoard Certified Holistic Health Practitioner301-816-0752www.wildsuccess.us --for a healthy lifestylewww.wildsuccess.us/naturalzing  --for healthy snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 As always, Chelly asks such great questions -- though I'm not sure if they're rhetorical and more to make points, but I'll chime in with my thoughts.>twice a month....every 6 monthsI'm not sure that would really be characterized as an addiction. If you're running to the store or cupboard because you gotta have it -- given that time frame -- I would question if it's a nutritional deficiency (most probably magnesium). If you're not running over people to get to it, then it's probably more a want than a craving. Can't say if it's " right " or " wrong " -- only you know what's really right for your body. >how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community?well....as I've watched and read materials from the gurus, what I see is that most say it's addictive (the theobromide is metabolized into caffeine). But what fascinates me is that one personality, who has really great scientific research and also sells cacao products...when in scientific mode says that a nibble is all that is needed. When that person is in marketing mode there are citations about how many pounds per year are consumed by indigenous, healthy populations. I'm a stickler for consistency! ;-) > My body is great at telling me when I have had enough, and that is what is key! HEAR HEAR -- of course my dear Chelly is in touch with her body and this IS the key. Mostly I'd say anything in moderation is fine. The key is to listen to the body -- not the mind. Don't rationalize, don't reason. Notice the effect that foods have on how you feel. I sometimes have cacao. Some forms I can tolerate. Some increase my heartbeat and get me buzzed to a really uncomfortable level. I also find that my body changes and the longer I'm raw the more sensitive it gets -- and the less I want such foods. most people eat because they are angry, lonely, tired, bored, stressed, oh, and occasionally because they are hungry! Let's address the emotions appropriately and then let food fuel our bodies. ;-)hugs and greens, Sharon~~ Dissolve Your Sugar Habit ~~ Boost Your Immunity ~~ Have More EnergyBoard Certified Holistic Health Practitioner301-816-0752www.wildsuccess.us --for a healthy lifestyle www.wildsuccess.us/naturalzing --for healthy snacks On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM, <Chellysblessed wrote: Happy Thanksgiving, do you think cacao in moderation, like once or twice a month is okay? I'm addicted to brownies (twice a month) and chocolate cake (once every 6 months), but for Easter I may make chocolate, and chocolate ice cream in the summer. Besides it being all about the money, how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community? Is it the misconception that eating 100% raw is already so healthy that a little bit of a less than 100% healthy chocolate is okay? I have never used cacao on a daily basis, but I have also never experienced any effect from it either, and my kids are not allowed much at all. My body is great at telling me when I have had enough, and that is what is key! I also think it is great that leaders in the community step up and say what is good and what is not. Enjoy your Holiday! ChellySent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry Sharon Greenspan <sharon Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:32:02 -0500Cc: 12steps raw<12stepstorawfood > Re: The Daily Raw Inspiration - Raw Drugs! >Finally the scientific raw community is standing up and warning us about Raw Cacao! finally?? Brian, Gabriel Cousens, Doug Graham...all these folks have been anti-cacao for a long time. Gabriel has just softened his stance...probably pressure and possibly economics. He has strong partnerships with those who sell a lot of cacao (and tend to be the only ones touting it's superfood benefits.) Gabriel has always said that stevia is the only sweetener he recommends (not agave).As I often say....people eat because they are angry, lonely, tired, bored, stressed and occasionally because they are hungry. The key to permanently changing what you eat is to deal with the underlying emotions. That's actually the biggest part of detox. Food is only a part of it. hugs and greens,Sharon~~Sharon Greenspan~~ Dissolve Your Sugar Habit ~~ Boost Your Immunity ~~ Have More EnergyBoard Certified Holistic Health Practitioner301-816-0752 www.wildsuccess.us --for a healthy lifestylewww.wildsuccess.us/naturalzing --for healthy snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 "how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community?well....as I've watched and read materials from the gurus, what I see is that most say it's addictive (the bromide is metabolized into caffeine). But what fascinates me is that one personality, who has really great scientific research and also sells cacao products...when in scientific mode says that a nibble is all that is needed. When that person is in marketing mode there are citations about how many pounds per year are consumed by indigenous, healthy populations. I'm a stickler for consistency!" I like that statement.. In our unwillingness to create our own path, and find our own individual greatness, to be and share, we embrace many people places, and things that do not empower or promote wellness.... The idea of how much I can tolerate is based on how much I can get away w/ before I have problems.. That's similar to saying "I'll make adjustments when I see outward signs of problems.. Everything we do has impact on ourself, and our surroundings.. Perfection is not required. Acknowledgment is helpful.. To have people post their own personal experiences, challenges, experiments, and successes, would far exceed the info we have from all the "Guru's".. This is not to knock the many people giving, sharing, and contributing to a better planet.. It's to remind us that those people are showing us the "us",the "me" that desires to come forth, to come out, and express ourself as a healthy vibrant empowered person... They are not showing us what they have to offer, they are reminding us of what we already have inside, that wants to come out and share it w/ the world.. Mark From: sharonDate: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:06:34 -0500Re: The Daily Raw Inspiration - Raw Drugs! As always, Chelly asks such great questions -- though I'm not sure if they're rhetorical and more to make points, but I'll chime in with my thoughts.>twice a month....every 6 monthsI'm not sure that would really be characterized as an addiction. If you're running to the store or cupboard because you gotta have it -- given that time frame -- I would question if it's a nutritional deficiency (most probably magnesium). If you're not running over people to get to it, then it's probably more a want than a craving. Can't say if it's "right" or "wrong" -- only you know what's really right for your body.>how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community?well....as I've watched and read materials from the gurus, what I see is that most say it's addictive (the theobromide is metabolized into caffeine). But what fascinates me is that one personality, who has really great scientific research and also sells cacao products...when in scientific mode says that a nibble is all that is needed. When that person is in marketing mode there are citations about how many pounds per year are consumed by indigenous, healthy populations. I'm a stickler for consistency! ;-)> My body is great at telling me when I have had enough, and that is what is key! HEAR HEAR -- of course my dear Chelly is in touch with her body and this IS the key. Mostly I'd say anything in moderation is fine. The key is to listen to the body -- not the mind. Don't rationalize, don't reason. Notice the effect that foods have on how you feel.I sometimes have cacao. Some forms I can tolerate. Some increase my heartbeat and get me buzzed to a really uncomfortable level. I also find that my body changes and the longer I'm raw the more sensitive it gets -- and the less I want such foods.most people eat because they are angry, lonely, tired, bored, stressed, oh, and occasionally because they are hungry! Let's address the emotions appropriately and then let food fuel our bodies. ;-)hugs and greens,Sharon~~ Dissolve Your Sugar Habit ~~ Boost Your Immunity ~~ Have More EnergyBoard Certified Holistic Health Practitioner301-816-0752www.wildsuccess.us --for a healthy lifestylewww.wildsuccess.us/naturalzing --for healthy snacks On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM, <Chellysblessed (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: Happy Thanksgiving, do you think cacao in moderation, like once or twice a month is okay? I'm addicted to brownies (twice a month) and chocolate cake (once every 6 months), but for Easter I may make chocolate, and chocolate ice cream in the summer.Besides it being all about the money, how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community? Is it the misconception that eating 100% raw is already so healthy that a little bit of a less than 100% healthy chocolate is okay? I have never used cacao on a daily basis, but I have also never experienced any effect from it either, and my kids are not allowed much at all. My body is great at telling me when I have had enough, and that is what is key! I also think it is great that leaders in the community step up and say what is good and what is not.Enjoy your Holiday! Chelly Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry Sharon Greenspan <sharon (AT) wildsuccess (DOT) us> Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:32:02 -0500 Cc: 12steps raw<12stepstorawfood > Re: The Daily Raw Inspiration - Raw Drugs! >Finally the scientific raw community is standing up and warning us about Raw Cacao! finally?? Brian, Gabriel Cousens, Doug Graham...all these folks have been anti-cacao for a long time. Gabriel has just softened his stance...probably pressure and possibly economics. He has strong partnerships with those who sell a lot of cacao (and tend to be the only ones touting it's superfood benefits.)Gabriel has always said that stevia is the only sweetener he recommends (not agave).As I often say....people eat because they are angry, lonely, tired, bored, stressed and occasionally because they are hungry. The key to permanently changing what you eat is to deal with the underlying emotions. That's actually the biggest part of detox. Food is only a part of it.hugs and greens,Sharon~~Sharon Greenspan~~ Dissolve Your Sugar Habit ~~ Boost Your Immunity ~~ Have More EnergyBoard Certified Holistic Health Practitioner301-816-0752www.wildsuccess.us --for a healthy lifestylewww.wildsuccess.us/naturalzing --for healthy snacks Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 KUDOS TO YOU MARK. , Mark Blake <blakensons wrote: > > > " how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community? > well....as I've watched and read materials from the gurus, what I see is that most say it's addictive (the bromide is metabolized into caffeine). But what fascinates me is that one personality, who has really great scientific research and also sells cacao products...when in scientific mode says that a nibble is all that is needed. When that person is in marketing mode there are citations about how many pounds per year are consumed by indigenous, healthy populations. I'm a stickler for consistency! " > > > > I like that statement.. In our unwillingness to create our own path, and find our own individual greatness, to be and share, we embrace many people places, and things that do not empower or promote wellness.... The idea of how much I can tolerate is based on how much I can get away w/ before I have problems.. That's similar to saying " I'll make adjustments when I see outward signs of problems.. Everything we do has impact on ourself, and our surroundings.. Perfection is not required. Acknowledgment is helpful.. To have people post their own personal experiences, challenges, experiments, and successes, would far exceed the info we have from all the " Guru's " .. This is not to knock the many people giving, sharing, and contributing to a better planet.. It's to remind us that those people are showing us the " us " ,the " me " that desires to come forth, to come out, and express ourself as a healthy vibrant empowered person... They are not showing us what they have to offer, they are reminding us of what we already have inside, that wants to come out and share it w/ the world.. > > Mark > > sharon > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:06:34 -0500 > Re: The Daily Raw Inspiration - Raw Drugs! > > > > > > As always, Chelly asks such great questions -- though I'm not sure if they're rhetorical and more to make points, but I'll chime in with my thoughts. > > >twice a month....every 6 months > I'm not sure that would really be characterized as an addiction. If you're running to the store or cupboard because you gotta have it -- given that time frame -- I would question if it's a nutritional deficiency (most probably magnesium). If you're not running over people to get to it, then it's probably more a want than a craving. Can't say if it's " right " or " wrong " -- only you know what's really right for your body. > > >how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community? > well....as I've watched and read materials from the gurus, what I see is that most say it's addictive (the theobromide is metabolized into caffeine). But what fascinates me is that one personality, who has really great scientific research and also sells cacao products...when in scientific mode says that a nibble is all that is needed. When that person is in marketing mode there are citations about how many pounds per year are consumed by indigenous, healthy populations. I'm a stickler for consistency! ;-) > > > My body is great at telling me when I have had enough, and that is what is key! > > HEAR HEAR -- of course my dear Chelly is in touch with her body and this IS the key. Mostly I'd say anything in moderation is fine. The key is to listen to the body -- not the mind. Don't rationalize, don't reason. Notice the effect that foods have on how you feel. > > I sometimes have cacao. Some forms I can tolerate. Some increase my heartbeat and get me buzzed to a really uncomfortable level. I also find that my body changes and the longer I'm raw the more sensitive it gets -- and the less I want such foods. > > most people eat because they are angry, lonely, tired, bored, stressed, oh, and occasionally because they are hungry! Let's address the emotions appropriately and then let food fuel our bodies. ;-) > > hugs and greens, > Sharon > > ~~ Dissolve Your Sugar Habit ~~ Boost Your Immunity ~~ Have More Energy > > Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner > 301-816-0752 > www.wildsuccess.us --for a healthy lifestyle > www.wildsuccess.us/naturalzing --for healthy snacks > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM, <Chellysblessed wrote: Happy Thanksgiving, do you think cacao in moderation, like once or twice a month is okay? I'm addicted to brownies (twice a month) and chocolate cake (once every 6 months), but for Easter I may make chocolate, and chocolate ice cream in the summer. > > Besides it being all about the money, how does this pop up on the market as something good in the raw community? Is it the misconception that eating 100% raw is already so healthy that a little bit of a less than 100% healthy chocolate is okay? I have never used cacao on a daily basis, but I have also never experienced any effect from it either, and my kids are not allowed much at all. My body is great at telling me when I have had enough, and that is what is key! I also think it is great that leaders in the community step up and say what is good and what is not. > > Enjoy your Holiday! > > Chelly > > Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry > > > > Sharon Greenspan <sharon > Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:32:02 -0500 > > Cc: 12steps raw<12stepstorawfood > > Re: The Daily Raw Inspiration - Raw Drugs! >Finally the scientific raw community is standing up and warning us about Raw Cacao! > > finally?? Brian, Gabriel Cousens, Doug Graham...all these folks have been anti-cacao for a long time. Gabriel has just softened his stance...probably pressure and possibly economics. He has strong partnerships with those who sell a lot of cacao (and tend to be the only ones touting it's superfood benefits.) > > Gabriel has always said that stevia is the only sweetener he recommends (not agave). > > As I often say....people eat because they are angry, lonely, tired, bored, stressed and occasionally because they are hungry. The key to permanently changing what you eat is to deal with the underlying emotions. That's actually the biggest part of detox. Food is only a part of it. > > hugs and greens, > Sharon > ~~ > Sharon Greenspan > > ~~ Dissolve Your Sugar Habit ~~ Boost Your Immunity ~~ Have More Energy > > Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner > 301-816-0752 > www.wildsuccess.us --for a healthy lifestyle > www.wildsuccess.us/naturalzing --for healthy snacks > > _______________ > Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. > http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games & scope=cashback & form=MSHYCB & publ\ =WLHMTAG & crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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