RE: On the nature of Natural Hygiene (WAS: Question??? )

[Guest guest]

RL: (?) wrote: Am surfing on raw food stuff and came up with this

site: <HYPERLINK

" http://naturalhygienesociety.org/questions.html " http://naturalhygie-nesocie

ty.-org/questions.-html>

HYPERLINK

" http://naturalhygienesociety.org/questions.html " http://naturalhygie-nesocie

ty.-org/questions.-html

 

Mark:

 

This is a link to the INHS, International Natural Hygiene Society. I was

on their email list briefly a few years ago when it started. I find it

surprising that they say “INHS is open to HLI member who is interested in

discussing these topics [optimal vegetarian diet, dangers of fruitarianism,

etc.]” because when I was on the list the moderator (Anna Nelson, I believe)

was very intolerant of anybody saying anything at all in favor of veganism

or about bad experiences they had had with animal products. The mildest

pro-vegan statements (such as “my vegan diet is working great for me”) were

met with harsh warnings not to do that again, because it might make the

animal eaters feel bad or something

 

Anyway, I found them to be a very intolerant group. Hopefully they have

changed. I am all for a healthy debate on these issues, because I am

interested in the experience and research of Drs. Bass, Fielder, Cursio,

etc., even if I don’t currently follow their diets.

 

I’m glad to be reminded of HLI, HYPERLINK

" http://www.healthfullivingintl.org/ " www.healthfullivingintl.org It looks

like they have a forum which is only available to members, but then it says

they don’t have memberships, which I find confusing.

 

Mark

 

 

 

Don't know when this page was written but it's discussing the dangers of

fruitarianism.-...oh, and some stuff about which NH group you should

join....sorry not into politics, just information.

 

Anyone know anything this? I googled " fruitarianism dangers " but got nothing

helpful. To be specific (excerpt)

 

Why not join HLI?

Why don't we just join Healthful Living International? HLI is a relatively

new natural hygiene group also originating from discontent with ANHS. There

are of course many similarities, but there are also substantial differences.

HLI follows TC Fry's (fruitarian) ideas closely.

 

But his ideas on the ideal diet are contradicted by the ideas of Dr. Cursio,

Dr. Bass, Weston-Price and anthropological research. We want to take this

contradiction seriously, look at all arguments and present the result to the

public.

Thank you,

RL

 

 

[Guest guest]

>Thanks Elchanan....well said. I got into this as a health

>experiment, I guess and the side benefit is, I'm finding (if I stick

>with it long enough) would be coming face to face with myself, i.e.,

>my natural self which I put more on the spiritual side of

>things. Actually I'm finding that we are not bits and pieces but

>one whole and that treating one virtual segment of our being ends up

>being all of our Being :-) Anyway, I'm hopeful that what you write

>about I'll experience soon.

 

 

RL sitting here with a kleenex, refusing decongestants, even herbal

meds, and nursing with warm water what appears to be a blossoming

cold :-) DETOX??, me thinks (hopes) :-)

 

>snipped:

 

>Greetings RL and all,

> indeed our entire being, creates health on its

>own. Our role is to live as we are designed to live, to the best of our

>present ability, and to give our system ALL that it needs to cleanse,

>repair, and restore itself.

>By " all that it needs " , I mean not only food, but also excellent rest,

>activity (what some call " exercise " ), sunshine, fresh air, sufficient

>hydration, laughter and play, work that one loves (and is therefore no

>longer work), and so forth. I know of two places on the Internet where one

>can fully explore this path:

>- Doug Graham's site at VegSource

>- the PathOfHealth group

>I have learned, not only with respect to health but with respect to many

>things, that almost everything I ever learned growing up was false. Not

>necessarily that every bit of information was false, but rather than the

>underlying premises, are fundamentally flawed. What

>I have come to comprehend, very deeply from within me, is that Nature has

>neither diagnoses nor treatments, but only actions and consequences. If we

>choose actions that create health, we shall eventually experience health. If

>we choose otherwise, we shall experience otherwise.

>Please note that the approach many of the NH folks describe, involving a

>diet high in fruits (AND with a base of SWEET fruits) and tender greens and

>low to nonexistent in most other things, is a diet that leads one into a

>place of high, steady, dependable energy, wellness, and awareness that are

>simply " off the map " of most people, even most RFs, to conceive. In this

>sense, what we describe really is living on the cutting edge.

>If you are willing, this way of eating and living will bring you

>face-to-face with yourself: you will have the opportunity to know yourself

>and the world around you as never before. I realize this may be said of

>several approaches to RF, to a degree, but I assure that the extent to which

>this becomes so with this approach expands, eventually and over time, far

>beyond what most people may likely ever experience.

>That is what is available, to those who would embrace and receive it.

>I hope this explanation is helpful. Best to all,

>Elchanan

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>H Folks,

>

>Am surfing on raw food stuff and came up with this

>site:

><<http://naturalhygienesociety.org/questions.html>http://naturalhygienesociety.\

org/questions.html>

>http://naturalhygienesociety.org/questions.html

>

>Don't know when this page was written but it's discussing the dangers of

>fruitarianism....oh, and some stuff about which NH group you should

>join....sorry not into politics, just information.

>

>Anyone know anything this? I googled " fruitarianism dangers " but got nothing

>helpful. To be specific (excerpt)

>

>Why not join HLI?

>Why don't we just join Healthful Living International? HLI is a relatively

>new natural hygiene group also originating from discontent with ANHS. There

>are of course many similarities, but there are also substantial differences.

>HLI follows TC Fry's (fruitarian) ideas closely.

>

>But his ideas on the ideal diet are contradicted by the ideas of Dr. Cursio,

>Dr. Bass, Weston-Price and anthropological research. We want to take this

>contradiction seriously, look at all arguments and present the result to the

>public.

>Thank you,

>RL

>

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