Eat SENSE-ible Raw Foods not medicines, Toxin free

[Guest guest]

Jeff,

 

Are there two standards? One for Bruce, one for others?

Put down your guns, Bruce.

 

To all,

 

I'll discuss the facts, and let them speak for them-

selves. Everyone is free to do as they choose.

 

I use logic and careful evaluation to determine the human

species' natural diet, following nature. What a

transitioner chooses to eat is up to them. It's a long

road to health for a civilized person who desires to

become truly healthy. Steady improvement wins the day.

 

Intellect is a sense. One sense. Humans have thousands

of senses that they can/need to use as a guide to health.

Civilized humans (and the animals they domesticated) are

the only unhealthy creature on the planet because they

have put intellect before full sensory evaluation of

their diet, surroundings, and civilization.

 

A return to health requires putting the intellect back in

its place - one part of an enormous collection of senses.

Health is dependent on a return to natural living as much

as possible. Natural living means following our full

complement of senses, not just intellectual " sense " .

 

Regarding diet:

 

When all unperverted senses are saying " yes, I like it " ,

that means it's healthy to eat.

 

When one or more unperverted senses are saying " no, I don't

like it " , that means its not healthy to eat.

 

That's how wild animals live. They are the healthiest on

the planet, suffering no disease. They live under the

harshest conditions, out in the wild. Wild humans do the

same and remain very healthy.

 

Civilized humans use their intellect to over-ride what

the rest of their senses are saying. Example: A person

eats garlic. The taste buds say " it burns " . The nose

says " it smells bad, that garlic eater smells bad " .

The civilized human continues to eat the garlic because

s/he has been trained to think " it is good for me " .

Many senses say a raw (or cooked, unadulterated) potato

is unpleasant to eat. It looks unappealing. Maca, another

domesticated weed, is also unpleasant to eat raw, even

more so than potato. Ten thousand similar examples could

be made.

 

What senses should be listened to - the bodily

senses that say " I don't like this " or the intellectual

sense that has been trained to think " eat it anyways,

its good for you " ? When the intellect is used to

override the senses, the senses slowly become perverted.

 

If the above is dogma, then all talk is dogma. If the above

is cerebral, then all talk is cerebral.

 

Civilized humans rationalize their food choices.

Rationalization has little to do with health and much

to do with making excuses for existing behaviour.

 

Humans desiring to return to health need to direct

their brains to thinking logically, following their

other senses. Thinking logically takes practice,

especially for a civilized human who is in the habit of

rationalizing/speculating/assuming. Thinking logically

has everything to do with health, but it must follow

the full senses of the body for it to be sensible,

especially regarding diet.

 

Durian is a fruit. It's part of our natural food. It's

healthy to eat. For those that don't like its frozen/

indoor/unripe smell, don't eat it. Rehabilitated senses

will come to enjoy its flavour and aromas. When fresh

and ripe, its odour is fragrant and pleasant, though

somewhat strong. Tropical fruit tends to be fragrant.

 

Maca is the common name for a weed (a plant) domesticated

over 2000 years ago. A plant has leaves, stems, roots,

flowers, etc. Just as animals store fat, plants often

store starch in their protected roots. The starch is

stored food for the plant, and just as animal stored

fat is not for other animals to eat, stored plant

food is not for other plants or animals to eat. It's

the plants own food.

 

Maca is a hardy perennial plant (a weed) of the

mustard family, containing many alkaloids, and for

this reason, Maca is commonly used as a medicine

and pushed by herb peddlars. Maca also contains tannins

(astringents used to tan hides and make ink), saponins

(foaming agents, detergents), aromatic isothiocyanates

(wood preservers, insecticides, aphrodisiacs), plenty

of glucosinolates (bitter part of the cruciferous

vegetables cabbage, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, bok

choy, and kale), and sterols (hormones).

 

Alkaloids are bitter nitrogen-containing compounds,

such as nicotine, morphine, caffeine, quinine,

strychnine, and a host of other irritants used by

civilized humans for their medicinal effect - energy

stimulant ( " energizer " ), diuretic, poison, relaxant,

stimulator, nerve deadener (pain killer), etc.

 

Medicine (Random House Dictionary): any substance used

in treating disease or illness.

 

Are medicines food? Is fruit a medicine? Is fruit used

by the medical establishment to cure disease? Is chemo-

therapy medicine? Is chemotherapy food? Is Maca a

normal/natural food for humans? Why do all medicines

have warning labels, come with directions, and have " side "

(poison) effects? Why does fruit come without warning

labels and poison effects?

 

The medical establishment (medicine) does not concern

itself with health creation. It focuses on treating

disease. It employs drugs, irritating herbs, and other

poisons to force the body into symptomatic reactions

that are different than the symptomatic reactions the

body is already undergoing. That's not about health

creation. That's about creating a new symptom to hide

the old symptom. Any new, unpleasant poison effects

are called " side " effects (thus making them suddenly

not harmful effects). Medicine calls that " curing " .

Curing means preserving (stopping life process),

which is what poisons do.

 

Maca is said to be " energizing " . It is energizing

because it contains similar alkaloids as coffee, in

greater volumes. Is coffee a health food?

 

Other than being very high in alkaloids and other

chemical irritants, Maca resembles the nutrient content

of corn, wheat, rice, and other grains. Grains are not

a normal food for humans and lead to many diseases, but

they are a lot less expensive than pills of Maca powder

sold by the supplement industry.

 

The civilized Peruvians, who experience frequent diseases

as well, use Maca as a food (mostly cooked and processed,

but also dried) and as a medicine. Why would Peruvians need

medicines? Perhaps it has something to do with their poor

diet that is causing their bodies to act syptomatically

(reacting to their improper cooked and processed foods,

Maca included). Whatever the case, Maca surely isn't making

them all healthy and disease free. How can we expect

Maca to make us disease free?

 

Maca also comes from the same region that domesticated

the potato, a tuber (starch stored in root, for the

plant). The potato contains no alkaloids, so a person

doesn't get " energized " by eating it. Alcohol, sugar,

cocaine, cigarettes, and a host of medicines, herbs,

and other civilized favourites are " energizing " too.

 

Why would a plant put toxic alkaloids (and all those

other noxious chemicals) in its stored food? To keep

other things from eating it, perhaps? Why

don't trees put toxic substances in fruit?

 

It's too bad that fruit is not so " energizing " . I

wentfor a mile swim yesterday after biking around

for hours, and all I had was 10-12 oranges all day.

Why doesn't medicine push fruit for its energizing

qualities? Perhaps fruit is not " medicinal " enough.

It just keeps people healthy, like any natural,

normal food does.

 

Fruit grows on trees. Fruit is sweet, juicy flesh

encompassing a seed, usually small. Humans can eat

the fruit and either throw out the seed if large,

or swallow it, if small. The seed starts to germinate

in the human's warm intestine, but its hard covering

prevents its digestion. The fruit flesh is digested

and absorbed to great degree. The human defecates and

the seed is in a perfect environment for its young

growth (if the human went outdoors, as it would in the

wild, like wild animals do). Two organisms benefit in

this process. The tree gets to propagateitself for

long term existence (and health).

 

The human gets a meal and long term health.

Everything/one lives and remains happy, just like

the normally and naturally peace-loving human likes it.

 

Weeds(plants) grow in the ground. They are mostly

toxic to humans. Eating their roots, or any part of

them, kills them. They usually contain substances

that irritate/stimulate us. We get some nutrition,

of course, but disease is always a companion to greater

or lesser degree, usually longterm. Who's benefitting

here? The dead plant? The diseased human?

 

Some plants, mostly domesticated, offer non-sweet

fruits, like cucumbers, bell peppers, and tomatoes, all

with seeds inside. They are much like fruit. They are

in fact fruits. Humans offer the same service to these

plants as they do to trees. Nothing/nobdoy dies,

nobody gets sick.

 

These are but a very few of the sensible facts and

ideas that reveal fruit eating's supremacuy over weed

(any part of it) eating. Is what I said " fruitless " ?

Is it just gibberish? Is it trivializing, illogical,

dogmatic, cerebral, etc, or does it just make good

sense?

 

Does it make sense to eat a weed that has harmful

bodily effects, just because someone believes it

is good (by ignoring the bad aspects) or that it

promotes a civilization (and business) somewhere else?

If one is to make the judgement that importing foods is

wrong, then surely importing unhealthy substances that

are misrepresented as health foods is even worse.

 

Bodily health is about eating appropriate, healthy

food for the body, not about whether the food (fruit)

was imported or not. Toxic weeds are toxic weeds

(roots, stems, leaves, the whole package), always

harmful in some way. Just because they are grown in

another country doesn't suddenly make them healthy

foods.The human body can tolerate some improper foods

if not eaten regularly, but for best health, the best

food is needed. Fruit requires no toleration. It

brings only goodness, so long as its eaten simply and

correctly like the wild animals eat - not overeaten,

cooked, mixed with other foods, etc.

 

I use Maca as an example. I could have easily used

the plentiful other weeds and herbs that are used as

medicine, elixirs, potions, tonics, cure-alls,

energizers, astringents, stimulants, preservers,

insecticides, pain killers, diuretics, excitants,

relaxants, and depressants. I wait for someone to

point out the harmful effects of oranges, bananas,

apples, cherries, peaches, durian, mangos, figs,

watermelon, and all the other wonderful fruit that

can be eaten by humans looking for health and

using their bodily senses.

 

I am intellectualizing above, and it is healthy

and legitimate intellectualizing that follows all

my senses, and the sensibility of life. My words

follow what nature says quite plainly. I merely

am using my mind (thinking brain) to put into words

what nature is saying. Nature's voice is always

the same, saying the same thing over and over.

Nature is not dogma, as much as improperly

intellectualizing minds might claim.

 

I'm trained in many things, have degrees, but nature

requires no degrees, titles, or certificates in order

to be healthy. She only requires that we follow her

sensibilities and if we intellectualize, to stay away

from rationalizing civilization's unhealthy habits and

to stick to logical reasoning that supports the bodily

senses.

 

As always, a person can only improve slowly, making

changes here and there, learning more, simplifying

the diet, starting from where they are. The above

comments reflect thoughts that bear upon full, natural,

normal health.

 

I'll leave it for the reader to decide what makes

sense and what to do, for nature holds each

responsible for themself, for better or worse.

 

Babbling like Nature's brooks, Robert

 

More info on Maca is at www.rain-tree.com/maca.htm and

other sites. It's pushed a lot by the supplement industry,

especially for its medicinal and herbal effects.

[Guest guest]

Hi Robert,

 

Thanks so much for all your posts here lately. I've

really been enjoying them!

 

All the best,

 

Audrey

 

--- Robert Rust <rustrobert wrote:

 

> Jeff,

>

> Are there two standards? One for Bruce, one for

> others?

> Put down your guns, Bruce.

>

> To all,

>

> I'll discuss the facts, and let them speak for them-

> selves. Everyone is free to do as they choose.

>

> I use logic and careful evaluation to determine the

> human

> species' natural diet, following nature. What a

> transitioner chooses to eat is up to them. It's a

> long

> road to health for a civilized person who desires to

>

> become truly healthy. Steady improvement wins the

> day.

>

> Intellect is a sense. One sense. Humans have

> thousands

> of senses that they can/need to use as a guide to

> health.

> Civilized humans (and the animals they domesticated)

> are

> the only unhealthy creature on the planet because

> they

> have put intellect before full sensory evaluation of

>

> their diet, surroundings, and civilization.

>

> A return to health requires putting the intellect

> back in

> its place - one part of an enormous collection of

> senses.

> Health is dependent on a return to natural living as

> much

> as possible. Natural living means following our full

>

> complement of senses, not just intellectual " sense " .

>

>

> Regarding diet:

>

> When all unperverted senses are saying " yes, I like

> it " ,

> that means it's healthy to eat.

>

> When one or more unperverted senses are saying " no,

> I don't

> like it " , that means its not healthy to eat.

>

> That's how wild animals live. They are the

> healthiest on

> the planet, suffering no disease. They live under

> the

> harshest conditions, out in the wild. Wild humans do

> the

> same and remain very healthy.

>

> Civilized humans use their intellect to over-ride

> what

> the rest of their senses are saying. Example: A

> person

> eats garlic. The taste buds say " it burns " . The nose

>

> says " it smells bad, that garlic eater smells bad " .

> The civilized human continues to eat the garlic

> because

> s/he has been trained to think " it is good for me " .

> Many senses say a raw (or cooked, unadulterated)

> potato

> is unpleasant to eat. It looks unappealing. Maca,

> another

> domesticated weed, is also unpleasant to eat raw,

> even

> more so than potato. Ten thousand similar examples

> could

> be made.

>

> What senses should be listened to - the bodily

> senses that say " I don't like this " or the

> intellectual

> sense that has been trained to think " eat it

> anyways,

> its good for you " ? When the intellect is used to

> override the senses, the senses slowly become

> perverted.

>

> If the above is dogma, then all talk is dogma. If

> the above

> is cerebral, then all talk is cerebral.

>

> Civilized humans rationalize their food choices.

> Rationalization has little to do with health and

> much

> to do with making excuses for existing behaviour.

>

> Humans desiring to return to health need to direct

> their brains to thinking logically, following their

> other senses. Thinking logically takes practice,

> especially for a civilized human who is in the habit

> of

> rationalizing/speculating/assuming. Thinking

> logically

> has everything to do with health, but it must follow

>

> the full senses of the body for it to be sensible,

> especially regarding diet.

>

> Durian is a fruit. It's part of our natural food.

> It's

> healthy to eat. For those that don't like its

> frozen/

> indoor/unripe smell, don't eat it. Rehabilitated

> senses

> will come to enjoy its flavour and aromas. When

> fresh

> and ripe, its odour is fragrant and pleasant, though

> somewhat strong. Tropical fruit tends to be

> fragrant.

>

> Maca is the common name for a weed (a plant)

> domesticated

> over 2000 years ago. A plant has leaves, stems,

> roots,

> flowers, etc. Just as animals store fat, plants

> often

> store starch in their protected roots. The starch is

>

> stored food for the plant, and just as animal stored

>

> fat is not for other animals to eat, stored plant

> food is not for other plants or animals to eat. It's

>

> the plants own food.

>

> Maca is a hardy perennial plant (a weed) of the

> mustard family, containing many alkaloids, and for

> this reason, Maca is commonly used as a medicine

> and pushed by herb peddlars. Maca also contains

> tannins

> (astringents used to tan hides and make ink),

> saponins

> (foaming agents, detergents), aromatic

> isothiocyanates

> (wood preservers, insecticides, aphrodisiacs),

> plenty

> of glucosinolates (bitter part of the cruciferous

> vegetables cabbage, cauliflower, brussel sprouts,

> bok

> choy, and kale), and sterols (hormones).

>

> Alkaloids are bitter nitrogen-containing compounds,

> such as nicotine, morphine, caffeine, quinine,

> strychnine, and a host of other irritants used by

> civilized humans for their medicinal effect - energy

> stimulant ( " energizer " ), diuretic, poison, relaxant,

>

> stimulator, nerve deadener (pain killer), etc.

>

> Medicine (Random House Dictionary): any substance

> used

> in treating disease or illness.

>

> Are medicines food? Is fruit a medicine? Is fruit

> used

> by the medical establishment to cure disease? Is

> chemo-

> therapy medicine? Is chemotherapy food? Is Maca a

> normal/natural food for humans? Why do all medicines

>

> have warning labels, come with directions, and have

> " side "

> (poison) effects? Why does fruit come without

> warning

> labels and poison effects?

>

> The medical establishment (medicine) does not

> concern

> itself with health creation. It focuses on treating

> disease. It employs drugs, irritating herbs, and

> other

> poisons to force the body into symptomatic reactions

>

> that are different than the symptomatic reactions

> the

> body is already undergoing. That's not about health

> creation. That's about creating a new symptom to

> hide

> the old symptom. Any new, unpleasant poison effects

> are called " side " effects (thus making them suddenly

>

> not harmful effects). Medicine calls that " curing " .

> Curing means preserving (stopping life process),

> which is what poisons do.

>

> Maca is said to be " energizing " . It is energizing

> because it contains similar alkaloids as coffee, in

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Audrey,

 

I truly appreciate your comments, and I'm glad

you've been enjoying my posts. Much careful, considerate

thought goes into them.

 

Enjoying the best of the simple life, Robert