Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Hi Mark, An avalanche is an avalanche. Is it bad? Is it good? A volcano is a volcano. Is it bad? Is it good? Is an grasshopper infestation bad or good? All are natural disasters. Are the individual grasshoppers grateful or having a good time/bad time? Does that have any bearing upon whether the grasshoppers' overpopulation is a natural disaster or not? Nature is the entire material universe and its phenomena. A disaster is an event causing great stress or ruin. A natural disaster is an event causing great stress or ruin, in nature. The term is not generally applied to human-created disasters, since most humans are civilized, civilized humans are generally living outside the bounds of wild living, and civilized humans are self- differentiated from wild humans and species. An overpopulation is an overpopulation. It's a biological natural disaster whenever and wherever it occurs. A human overpopulation is also a natural disaster, despite humans being the star of the show and despite whether humans like to call it good or bad. Whether a disaster is called bad/good/mixed depends on the party involved. Calling a disaster good or bad doesn't determine (define) a natural disaster. Normal means what is the typical, the usual. Abnormal means differing from the usual or typical. Humans are natural to the planet and normal to life, even as they are only one life form of millions (and could thusly, though misleadingly, be called " abnormal " ). Disasters are natural to the planet and are normal to existence (occuring from time to time - typically), while still being abnormal (infrequent - not so typical). Stability (long term, stable systems) massively dominate on the planet, and throughout the universe. Civilization is a state of human society characterized by high levels of intellectual, social and cultural development. Civilized (domesticated, tamed, non-wild) living, in accord with civilization, is very abnormal (non-typical) to life and to existence (nature) itself. Civilized living, or civilization, is not normal because it is only followed by humans and the animals they domesticated and not by any other of the tens of thousands of animal species, let alone the other seemingly infinite life forms such as plants, insects, and bacteria. From a pure human-biased perspective, there is no human overpopulation. The same goes for the pure grasshopper-biased perspective regarding it's occasional overpopulation (note the grasshopper's overpopulation being so intimately tied with human agricultural practices - food for careful thought . Overpopulating humans or grasshoppers will both act as if they are good and will love the overpopulating process, expectedly. In the long run, no living thing has much of any impact on the planet, no matter how destructive/non-destructive it is. Thousands of considerations can be invoked, while ignoring all contrary evidence and logic, to misleadingly " prove " , conclude, or indicate modern civilized humans are not overpopulating. A person who considers all the evidence, including the immense stress and ruin that civilized humans are bringing to earth and its life forms, concludes differently. Natural disaster: an event causing great stress or ruin, in nature. Using observation and following established definitions, a mind rationally and sensibly concludes that civilization is a natural disaster. It's specifically a human-caused biological natural disaster. That we are undergoing an overpopulation biological disaster is no reason to not enjoy ourselves, just as an avalanche is no reason for a snowfake not to enjoy and be part of its ride. It is a reason to watch out for the unpredictable bumps in the ride, however, since not much is stable and change is constant as the disaster starts, rises in amplitude, peaks, and then dies out slowly. All in peace, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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