Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Richard, > I define belief as what brings me joy. I find dictionary > definitions are often lacking in depth. enjoyment: the experience that brings joy, something enjoyed. belief: the acceptance of something as true, without proof. Your words merely state you 1. enjoy believing ; 2. redefine words to suit your fancy. Yes, its a problem with dictionaries. They follow protocol and give words one meaning (one meaning = definition), allowing for the making of sensible conclusions. With your definition of belief, you are really talking about how to look at things, how to make/give meaning. Words don't need to be redined to accomplish that. Only more words need to be used. Intellectual sense is lost and reduced to triviality if words are ill defined and given fanciful meanings, instead of definitions. The dog is the house is the car is the sea is the spoon is the moon is the sky is the far east is everything is nothing is something is real is true is belief. Language can be used to spread clear-headedness instead of intellectual confusion, even as ways of looking at things or giving meaning are important. If " philosophizing " words into endless meanings is an indication of the direction of thinking in the academic world and self-taught individuals, I think it is best that the academics and individuals leave conclusion making to those that stick to definitions while pondering meanings. The above statements are my reflecting on matters, and I don't mean to hurt feelings, etc. It's straight talk, but done calmly, with consideration, and just a tad of satire, not meant to be taken harshly. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Oh Robert, I don't depend on the beliefs of you or others to bring me joy, just my own beliefs so you wouldn't be hurting my feelings. I'm glad that you enjoy your beliefs as well (or whatever you choose to call what you do...it certainly isn't reality as I would define it...but hey you know me and definitions!) and enjoy writing about them at great length. " ...at the moment that you, as an individual decide that you're not going to ask one other to change one thing they're doing to improve the way *you* feel, you will find freedom for the first time. Freedom more delicious than words can describe. " [Abraham-Hicks] Thus I would not consider trying to convince you that, say, your belief that civilization = bad constitutes a belief (and one shared by very few others), because it would neither change you and it would impinge my freedom by tying it into changing *you* to suit me. You will always filter the world to suit your beliefs, as do I (at least in my opinion). By the way, my words do not merely mean that I enjoy believing, but that I believe that which gives me joy and thus create more of it in my life. Right now I would enjoy an apple, so I believe that I will have one! Richard - " Robert Rust " <rustrobert <RawSeattle > Friday, July 14, 2006 10:03 AM [RawSeattle] Philosophy, Meanings, and Word Definitions. > Richard, > > > I define belief as what brings me joy. I find dictionary > > definitions are often lacking in depth. > > enjoyment: the experience that brings joy, something enjoyed. > belief: the acceptance of something as true, without proof. > > Your words merely state you 1. enjoy believing ; 2. redefine > words to suit your fancy. > > Yes, its a problem with dictionaries. They follow protocol and > give words one meaning (one meaning = definition), allowing for the > making of sensible conclusions. > > With your definition of belief, you are really talking about how > to look at things, how to make/give meaning. Words don't need to > be redined to accomplish that. Only more words need to be used. > > Intellectual sense is lost and reduced to triviality if words > are ill defined and given fanciful meanings, instead of definitions. > > The dog is the house is the car is the sea is the spoon is the > moon is the sky is the far east is everything is nothing is > something is real is true is belief. > > Language can be used to spread clear-headedness instead of > intellectual confusion, even as ways of looking at things or > giving meaning are important. > > If " philosophizing " words into endless meanings is an indication > of the direction of thinking in the academic world and self-taught > individuals, I think it is best that the academics and individuals > leave conclusion making to those that stick to definitions while > pondering meanings. > > The above statements are my reflecting on matters, and I don't > mean to hurt feelings, etc. It's straight talk, but done calmly, > with consideration, and just a tad of satire, not meant to be > taken harshly. > > Robert > > > > > > Visit the Seattle Raw Foods Community: http://rawseattle.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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