Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Good day, Here is the beginning of my reply to the LiveScience article. The full article is at: www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060704_bad_raw_food.html If my reply is anything, it's a practice in paying attention to words and what they mean, how they are arranged into sentences, into paragraphs, and then articles to create an impression or understanding. Besides using inaccurate information, speculation, and straw-man arguments, the Wanjek article took advantage of misused terms and poorly defined words to create an impression that raw food eating is just another whacko idea, that might have good elements to it, maybe, for interested persons, perhaps. Wanjek had an opportunity to bring clarity to the issue, but he mostly made the picture more confusing. The sensible conclusion is to eat more human-species appropriate raw foods, which is consistent with a frugivorous diet - mostly fruit. The below is a continuation of my previous post in which I outlined geological events on earth that have precipitated the current state humanity finds itself in. I consider the article's statements, one by one, quoted, with my reply after. The entire article is replied to, in order. Robert ........................................................ I'll look at the article paragraph by paragraph, idea by idea. I'll quote the article, in italics, then I'll comment. Part I Introductory Paragraphs " American ingenuity has found one solution to the energy crisis: food you never need to cook. There's no need for fuel when everything you eat---from salad to, well, more salad—is served up at piping room temperature. " A return to natural eating habits requires a correction of perverted senses and a listening to improved senses and those that remain unperverted. I realize the humour, but ingenuity has little to do with returning to health. It's all about becoming sensible again, not inventing new sensibility. Raw food requires no fuel, of course, other than natural sunlight, water, earth, air, warmth, and security for growth. " I'm speaking of the raw food diet, for those who find the vegan lifestyle of no animal food products far too opulent. This is particularly popular in, where else, California, yet it's making its way across the country. " It serves little to isolate California in a constructive, productive discussion of raw food lifestyles. Californians didn't introduce raw food eating to the thousands of animal species on the planet. " On one level, the raw diet has much going for it. Hardly anyone on this diet is overweight. With mostly fresh vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds and sprouted beans, the diet is low in fat and high in nutrients. " A good observation. Wild animal species are never overweight and, on the whole, their diet is largely low fat. In fact, as the farmers say, to fatten up the cow, feed it grain. Cooked grain does an even better job. The obesity and overweight epidemics in our civilized culture are directly proportional to the abnormal grain-eating epidemic. Grains include bread, cereals, pasta, corn, rice, barley, malt, and any of their products. " Some followers believe the raw lifestyle can prevent or cure cancer; and it has high-profile adherents, such as Apple CEO Steve Jobs, who was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer a few years ago. " The raw lifestyle doesn't prevent or cure cancer. Cancer is a symptom primarily created by the prolonged eating of denatured foods. What one doesn't create one doesn't have to experience, let alone cure. Eating raw food simply doesn't create cancer. Eating cooked food does, eventually. Steve Jobs wizened up. Whether a famous person follows a diet is no way to judge a diet. Correct diet determination is not a popularity contest nor a matter of voting. " On another level, this is just whacked. " A credible science article doesn't often use this type of language, but then this is a less formal, much more casually written article, of course. Part II Natural: A dangerous word " Like many alternative diets, the raw food diet is grounded on a few solid principles. Americans eat too much processed food; and fresh, minimally prepared food is more nutritious. Blackened food, that delicious charbroiled taste, can cause cancer in the long run. But on closer examination, the raw diet makes little sense biologically. " All true, except for the last claim. The normal, natural raw food diet for human is grounded on only solid principles. What that diet is, is determined by careful study of the sciences and astute observation of the wild world that still follows sensible, unadulterated eating practices. If the raw diet makes little sense biologically, then biology is a fraud. The rest of the thousands of species that eat only raw food have diets that make complete biological sense. The entire animal world is raw and eats raw, except for humans and their favourite pets. A clarification of what is truly an appropriate raw diet for the human species is required before passing judgment on the raw diet. " A primary claim among raw food advocates is that the raw diet is a natural diet. " Yes, it's a very natural diet. Natural as opposed to artificially made by civilized humans. Natural in the sense of having been around for billions of years before humans recently started fooling around with their food supply. Natural as in wild animals who are eating their wild foods, all raw. If we cannot claim that wild animals are eating their normal and natural foods, then normal and natural are meaningless words. It is very consistent with sensibility, rationality, and the evolution of life itself, that the human species' natural diet can be said to be a raw food diet. To say the opposite is to speak nonsense and to contradict all of nature itself. " After all, no other animal cooks its food, and humans only started cooking after the domestication of fire. " True and a good point ever worth keeping in mind. Fire control is a recent development in human evolution. In regards to its application to food preparation, it cannot be claimed a success yet. Time and evidence will tell, but no one should hold their breath. " But 'natural' is always a dangerous word. " Yes, most people misuse, abuse, and confuse the term to suit their argumentive needs, disregarding the true meaning of the word, particularly in regard to what is natural for humans. The word has been confused with and abused into the word 'average', and represents only looking at history's recent crowd of civilized humans. It is average for the civilized human to eat cooked food, but it is not natural or normal for the human species to eat cooked food. For the vast majority of its existence, the human ate a raw diet. It was the norm and completely natural, consistent with the habits of every other biological species on the planet. Human bodies have changed very little in form and function in the last half million years and more. " Humans have evolved to eat and survive on a wide range of diets. " That civilized humans eat a wide range of " foods " is no evidence for their normal or natural diet. Diet means daily fare, and as applied to a species, it means what that species eats. Species are identified partly by being classified according to their diet, which is reflected in their biological features such as their anatomy and phyisology. The article statement above implies that humans are carnivores, herbivores, graminovores, omnivores, insectivores, and frugivores all at the same time. This would mean that biological science applies only to non-human creatures. Are civilized humans part of biological life? A classification doesn't limit a species to just one type of food, but it does limit its diet. A carnivore can eat small amounts of herbage. An insectivore can eat seeds. A graminovore (grain eater) can eat some flesh or insects. An herbivore can eat some meat. A frugivore can eat small amounts of non-fruit items too, without harm. Humans are evolved as frugivores, a process that took millions of years to come into being and that doesn't change in mere thousands of years. There is only one diet that suits the human species -- a frugivorous diet. A frugivorous diet consists primarily of fruit (80 -90%), with smaller amounts of vegetables, seeds, nuts, grasses, tubers, legumes, flesh, grubs, and mushrooms eaten to varying extents. Animal flesh and parts can even be eaten, but its stretching the classification of frugivore. The closest animal to the human in nature is the peace-loving, friendly, and gentle Bonobo ape which shares 98 to 99 percent of the human genes. It is a frugivore and eats mostly fruit and displays very human-like behaviour, especially reproductively. Humans share the same anatomy and physiology with it. No doubt psychology too, considering its mating and cultural habits. " The Inuit have survived thousands of years almost entirely on a diet of raw fish and meat " In truth, the recent civilized culture called the Inuit ate a diet of berries (dried and fresh), small greens and shoots, flowers, mushrooms, insects, dried fish, whale and seal blubber (a treat), and related fare that can be found in sub arctic and artic environments. They refrained from eating too much flesh, and more often than not fed the flesh to their pack dogs. They ate primarily raw food until recent contact with the western world. The Inuit's diet is greatly misrepresented by researchers who haven't done their homework. In recent millennia, the human species has attempted to adapt to a diet of non-fruit items, and the practice has become a custom of modern cultures dating beyond the Egyptians and Phoenicians (not long ago, in geology and evolution). It is not successful adaptation, for these humans all exhibit signs of disease, reduced health, and shortened longevity. Evolution is partly the result of successful adaptation over millions of years. Attempts at adaptation that fail are the part of evolution called extinction. Humans have only been eating non-fruit foods as a primary source of nutrition for mere thousands of years. There's no time for successful adaptation here, let alone evolution. " Some cultures, conveniently in regions of prolonged growing seasons, shun all meat as unnatural. " Being flesh, meat is natural, but it is not normally nor naturally a large part of the human species' diet, if at all. The Bonobo ape rarely eats flesh, and then only as a momentary curiosity at best. In its raw form, flesh is mostly unpleasant to the human species. Our natural, unabused senses still tell us this today. Raw fresh fish, including the head, bones, organs and other entrails, is not intrinsically appealing to us, as it is to all animals for which it is suitable food. " That said, humans have always eaten some cooked food. So, too, do many land animals; and so did our human ancestors. How? Largely in the form of roasted grasshoppers or other small critters caught in forest fires and brushfires. " This is speculation. Are we to suppose prehistoric humans, for subsidence, waited patiently til fires burned enough nearby forests and plains to provide enough scorched grasshoppers and slowly fleeing squirrels to eat? Evidently you've never seen the remains of a forest fire. Wild animals don't stick around to roast hot dogs and pose for pictures, like civilized humans. Humans have progressively eaten more cooked food over the last 20,000 years. It is only in recent centuries that humans have gone off the deep end. Fire foraging, if it was ever done, is more evidently a curiosity-inspired desperate measure for sustenance that became a cultural habit for some displaced human tribes. Today there is a cultural habit of drinking a processed alkaloid called caffeine, a drug in the same family as cocaine, morphine, nicotine, strychnine, quinine, and codeine. Fried grasshopper eating hasn't quite progressed as far as Star Bucks yet. " Fire foraging was quite natural and helped secure our survival. " Again, fire foraging is speculation based. Speculation isn't supporting evidence for a theory or claim. Speculation is guessing and guessing is no way to determine a species natural, normal diet. Legitimate scientific study can be used to determine that. If charred bugs and critters were eaten, they were an emergency or curiosity fare. Emergency foods certainly did secure our survival for another day, after the human species' movement away from the tropics and into the tougher climes of the temperate and polar zones, but not for any time period significant in geological or evolutionary terms. Evidence shows the emergency foods were grass grains, domesticated weeds and plants, animal flesh and body parts, baked roots, and other items not common or normal to a frugivorous diet. " This is how we developed the taste for cooked food. " Similar to how we developed our taste for coffee, anchovies, chocolate bars, barbecued ribs, cakes, cigarettes, sugar, Big Macs, grape wines, Twinkies, drugs, pasta, peanuts, strawberry ice cream, glazed donuts, tacos, bread, frog legs, sweet candies, fish eggs (caviar), French fries, French toast, cheese, orange sodas, rice, apple pies, sushi, sauces, cornflakes, pizza, and infinite other oddities that contradict the human species' normal and natural frugivorous nature. It does well to note that these " foods " , with their sauces and other additions, attempt to simulate fruit's juiciness, sweetness, flavours, textures and colours to make them palatable. There's a good reason why humans attempt to make their foods more sweet, tasty, and mouth-watering like fruit. As examples of the unpleasantness of non-frugivorous foods, flour is a tasteless, gooey paste in the mouth, and raw meat is repulsive unless disguised in sauces and its BBQ sauce for cooked meat. Having a taste for an abnormal substance doesn't make it an appropriate substance to eat. Appetite is largely a learned, culture- reinforced response, and in the civilized world it has little to do with true hunger and most to do with desperate action. Desperate action includes addiction to harmful substances, such as coffee, pastries, alcohol, cooked foods of all sorts, cigarettes, etc. (see list above). An addict finds it difficult to get off an addictive substance. Cooked food is the most insipid, deceptive addiction of all addictions and the hardest to get a civilized culture off of once it's started. It's extremely tough for an individual to remove him/herself from the sticky web of cooked food addiction. The " taste " for cooked food is in actuality an addiction to a harmful substance initially used as an emergency food to survive a long- developing geological disaster (for the human species). ................................................... ...........to be continued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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