Raw Tidings of Abundance: the Open Gate is on the other shore !Purpose of this website

[Guest guest]

Sounds to me like people enjoy isolating themselves from

being human; ie: voicing human issues like:

being a spiritual being having a human experience and I can say that

requires that most of us earn a living wage in a world that

is other than supportive of " unconventional " meaning non-processed

foods. some of us have the courage to make and market our own

products and to bring a loving product to the table of our brethren and

sistren.

i find it quite dissapointing and appaling to feel unwelcome by the very

people who could be supporting the next seven generations by supporting

my endeavors for the consciousness of those who are blessed enough

to appreciate the love and care of these humble hands.

Namaste and Best Regards. I bid you all Adieu!

I'll do my business where it is truly appreciated.

I bid you all Adieu! Raw Tidings of Abundance:

the Open Gate is on the other shore !

 

Gael Foord <gaelfoord wrote:

I've been thinking the same thing -- thanks for voicing this, Linda.

Gael

 

On Nov 30, 2005, at 9:05 AM, heartsong wrote:

 

> Thank you for your comment Ron. I totally agree. Yes, this is a

> public site,

> to be used specifically for raw-related topics, NOT for personal

> emails

> (copying the rawseattle group) or relentless marketing of goods for

> personal

> gain. I would appreciate seeing this list getting back to its original

> intent. Perhaps a link could be posted on the homepage under

> " links " where a

> person could go for products. Any thoughts anyone else?

>

> IMHO-- peace, Linda

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I thought Raw Seattle was about supporting the raw community.

 

So with all this talk of " no personal gain " , does that mean that Jeff can no

longer talk about his Vice Cream and his book? Shakti cannot vend her

marvelous cookies? The notices about the vegan/raw holiday fair will not be

seen. Oh my, no more notices from Chaco Canyon either!! There will be no

talk of classes for heavens sake, someone might be making a living doing

that!

 

Don't think I'll stick around this list any longer if that be the case.

That's why I'm here. I don't visit the website. I depend on this list to

get the word to me.

 

And I'd like to point out that one of the people wanting the ban HAS

" advertised " their own wares on this very list! Shame on you.

 

Shari

[Guest guest]

I agree with Shari, I like knowing when an event is

coming up (that money is often charged for) or when a

new product that I might want comes out, or when

Madison Market has a new raw product. I don't think it

has become excessive at all.

 

Audrey

 

--- SV <shavig wrote:

 

> I thought Raw Seattle was about supporting the raw

> community.

>

> So with all this talk of " no personal gain " , does

> that mean that Jeff can no

> longer talk about his Vice Cream and his book?

> Shakti cannot vend her

> marvelous cookies? The notices about the vegan/raw

> holiday fair will not be

> seen. Oh my, no more notices from Chaco Canyon

> either!! There will be no

> talk of classes for heavens sake, someone might be

> making a living doing

> that!

>

> Don't think I'll stick around this list any longer

> if that be the case.

> That's why I'm here. I don't visit the website. I

> depend on this list to

> get the word to me.

>

> And I'd like to point out that one of the people

> wanting the ban HAS

> " advertised " their own wares on this very list!

> Shame on you.

>

> Shari

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Kudos, Shari!!

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> I thought Raw Seattle was about supporting the raw community.

 

IMHO, there's a difference between support and exploitation, and I

see exploitation and cooler-than-thou attitudes in this community to

a far greater extent than I have in any other.

 

> So with all this talk of " no personal gain "

 

I don't mind an occasional ad. A relentless succession of them is a

different story, or a vaguely-described link to a site with a huge

video selling EST or something.

 

> marvelous cookies? The notices about the vegan/raw holiday fair

> will not be

> seen.

 

I haven't seen one - I think the message here about it was encrypted.

[Guest guest]

Hi Shakti,

The discussion that you've responded to below is about how much

marketing is too much. That's all it's about. It's not about people

isolating themselves from being human, or any of the other things

that you've implied. It really is only about how much marketing is

too much. As you are one of the marketers, I understand how it may

have seemed like a personal attack, but it wasn't. We are all

involved in the raw food path, and one way we can all do our part in

making the world a better place for the next seven generations is to

allow open discussion when someone has a problem about something on

our raw food support list. If you want to market your products as

often as possible on the list, let Jeff know, because he has asked

for input. And your voice is as important as any other.

Best,

Gael