Supplments Option for Fibromyalgia & roots of degenerative disease

[Guest guest]

Hi Laura,

I think people raised in the fifties were frequently raised by people who had

survived the depression, were somewhat fixated on the difference between rich

and poor people, and were determined to not be poor. My aunt refused to have a

wood stove in her house because poor people used stoves and rich people used

fireplaces. For years my uncle had to cut 2-3 times as much wood as necessary

because of the inefficient fireplace. Years after efficient wood stoves became

popular, she finally let my uncle get an efficient insert for the fireplace.

 

We ate too much meat because my dad rarely got to eat meat as a child.

 

Only poor people drank water you could get for free. Rich people drank

beverages.

 

Now we know why the poor rural people of the early 20th century could work until

they died of natural causes at a very old age - they drank water, ate greens and

whole grains, and ate little meat, sugar, or caffeine.

 

We also know why the rich people were frequently laid up with gout and could

barely toddle around - they ate a diet of highly process food, no fresh water,

and lots of meat, sugar, and caffeine.

 

So many of us raised in the fifties had parents who worked really hard to feed

us the opposite of a really healthy diet.

 

May your day be filled with clarity, grace, progress, and warm laughter,

Roger

 

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" Laura Haddaway " <iamdunroamin

<RawSeattle >

Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:45 PM

[RawSeattle] Re: Supplments Option for Fibromyalgia

 

 

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> just a brief note this afternoon, but my Fibromyalgia

> is really responding to drinking three quarts of

> distilled water a day.

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> Many doctors feel that the start of Fibromyalgia is in

> the body getting chronically dehydrated. I was a huge

> soda drinker, milk, or juice. All of which remove two

> ounces of water per ounce drank. I never saw my folks

> ever drink water, and they swilled coffee.

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> So I have been getting my daughter to drink water, and

> now teaching two of my sisters. Its weird but NO ONE

> in my family on either side drank water. Was this

> just not done in the fifties or what?

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> One parent decided to start drinking water after

> seeing how my Fibromyalgia started getting less

> intense... specially after I ended up getting not only

> out of my wheelchair, but now no longer use two canes.

> As of September, its no canes at all and I can even

> walk two blocks uphill! She is going great guns, lots

> of energy, less pain. My pop is still strickly a

> coffee man and is not doing as well. He can barely

> walk across the hall.

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> Try it and let me know if you start having less

> symptoms and more lower pain days.

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[Guest guest]

EXACTLY Roger! My father was described in " Diet for a New America " by John

Robbins. With each job promotion he got the more meat was introduced into

our home. When we could have steak twice a week we knew we were " there " .

My mother's idea of a green salad was a wedge of ice berg lettuce smeared

with mayonaise. I too am a product of the '50s with parents from the

depression area.

 

My father died in 1991 at the age of 66 from.................you guessed

it - colon cancer.

 

Shari

[Guest guest]

Hi, Shari -

 

I remember those salads!! Same time frame!! And, in the 1980's, when I was

taking my mandatory food service classes in preparation for my BS degree,

those types of " salads " (the wedge of iceberg lettuce with some sort of

dressing) was still considered to be acceptable salad fare for the

students!!

 

Spaghetti sauce in our home was Campbell's Cream of Tomato Soup. The cheese

was Velveeta. White bread. Bacon sandwiches (forget the lettuce & tomato

part). Pizza from a box mix. My sister and myself often talk about these

gourmet disasters that were commonplace in those days. We never were

wealthy, but we had meat frequently because we grew our own. Any

unfortunate baby calf that was born male was immediately " fixed " and raised

for meat. Fish was included if my dad was lucky enough to catch one on the

weekend; razor clams were frequent when the tides were right, the number we

got to eat depended on both skill and luck. Our family disease? Heart

disease and stroke.

 

But then, back in the 1950's, our parents were listening to the USDA

messages about the " basic four food group " , which maximized meat and dairy,

and minimized the foods that we now know to be much better for us. The

fruits and vegetables were lumped into one group, with four servings per day

(total) recommended. Yikes!! Of course, this was also the time when

cigarette companies advertised in magazines that " more doctors smoke [insert

brand here] of cigarettes than any other brand " .

 

I needed braces on my teeth when I was young, as did my next-older sister,

but not my oldest sister. I have to think back to Dr. Weston Price's

research about what happened to indigenous people from around the world when

processed foods (white flour, white rice, white sugar, and canned goods)

were introduced to them, displacing their native diets. Changes in the

mouth resulted in crooked, decayed, and missing teeth, and damage to the

overall dental health as the children grew to adulthood. I have to ponder

whether my oldest sister might have been conceived before my mother started

using the processed foods, and that my next-older sister and myself came

along after the switch to the new, " modern " foods that were pushed heavily

after WWII? (My oldest sister was born before the war, my next-older sister

was born after the war, as was I.)

 

Interesting things to think about, but also a reflection on how far we've

come in our knowledge and awareness of how food impacts our health and

disease risk.

 

Take care -

 

Sue

 

 

EXACTLY Roger! My father was described in " Diet for a New America " by John

Robbins. With each job promotion he got the more meat was introduced into

our home. When we could have steak twice a week we knew we were " there " .

My mother's idea of a green salad was a wedge of ice berg lettuce smeared

with mayonaise. I too am a product of the '50s with parents from the

depression area.

 

My father died in 1991 at the age of 66 from.................you guessed

it - colon cancer.

 

Shari