Body rejecting healthy foods

[Guest guest]

What can i do if my body keeps rejecting most fruits, veggies, and

nuts? The only thing i've eaten for years are meat starches and loads

of sugar. I can eat some acidic or sweet fruits like oranges and

pineapples or cooked starchy veggies like corn and potatos, but

everything else makes my body regurgiate even more so when when the

foods are raw and in their natural state. There is no way i can be a

raw vegan if this keeps happening. Does anyone have answers for me? I

tried eating a canteloupe the other day and the moment I swallowed it

I threw up.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I am surprised that no-one has responded to your e-mail. This is not a rejection

of the food as such. It is right action. As soon as you place a food in your

body which does not inhibit the body from acting as it should, such as is the

case with raw food, then it immediately says to us, we do not need more food at

this time, and ejects it. It is saying we should fast and rest until such time

as there is a desire for food in its whole raw state. And then it will not be

rejected. Every mouthful will be savoured.

 

John

 

John L. Fielder DO,DC,ND(Adel)

Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant

www.iig.com.au/anl

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quinsetta22

rawfood

Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:52 AM

[Raw Food] Re: Body rejecting healthy foods

 

 

 

 

I guess my question was more complicated than I thought. Since know

one here has any answers or suggestions for me, does anyone know of

another group or message board with long term raw foodists who might

be able to help? Thank You

 

Here was my previous question:

 

> What can i do if my body keeps rejecting most fruits, veggies, and

> nuts? The only thing i've eaten for years are meat starches and

loads

> of sugar. I can eat some acidic or sweet fruits like oranges and

> pineapples or cooked starchy veggies like corn and potatos, but

> everything else makes my body regurgiate even more so when when the

> foods are raw and in their natural state. There is no way i can be

a

> raw vegan if this keeps happening. Does anyone have answers for me?

I

> tried eating a canteloupe the other day and the moment I swallowed

it

> I threw up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

rawfood , quinsetta22 <no_reply> wrote:

>

>

> What can i do if my body keeps rejecting most fruits, veggies, and

> nuts? The only thing i've eaten for years are meat starches and loads

> of sugar. I can eat some acidic or sweet fruits like oranges and

> pineapples or cooked starchy veggies like corn and potatos, but

> everything else makes my body regurgiate even more so when when the

> foods are raw and in their natural state. There is no way i can be a

> raw vegan if this keeps happening. Does anyone have answers for me? I

> tried eating a canteloupe the other day and the moment I swallowed it

> I threw up.

 

I would go to the doctor, perhaps, and get a full checkup.

That doesn't sound right.

[Guest guest]

I guess my question was more complicated than I thought. Since know

one here has any answers or suggestions for me, does anyone know of

another group or message board with long term raw foodists who might

be able to help? Thank You

 

Here was my previous question:

 

> What can i do if my body keeps rejecting most fruits, veggies, and

> nuts? The only thing i've eaten for years are meat starches and

loads

> of sugar. I can eat some acidic or sweet fruits like oranges and

> pineapples or cooked starchy veggies like corn and potatos, but

> everything else makes my body regurgiate even more so when when the

> foods are raw and in their natural state. There is no way i can be

a

> raw vegan if this keeps happening. Does anyone have answers for me?

I

> tried eating a canteloupe the other day and the moment I swallowed

it

> I threw up.

[Guest guest]

Here is what I believe is the answer to your question: since you had such a poor

diet for so long, your body is not well. And it is not used to good food. My

suggestion is to steam your vegetables (eat little to no meat), and gradually

introduce raw vegetables and fruits to your diet to eventually make a total

switch to raw. Be sure to drink lots of pure water and herb teas between meals.

Also try mixing vegetable and fruit juices in with some pure water. Be sure that

you juice these fresh. Then eventually you can drink them straight from the

juicer as your body adjusts. Fresh juices are powerful and I'm guessing your

body needs them diluted at first. Get a juicing book. If you go to a doctor they

will just try to give you drugs that will mask your problems not cure them. Let

your body adjust naturally. Aloe vera juice is very soothing to the digestive

system and you can drink it undiluted. Start with a little at a time. It will

heal and soothe your tissues.

Thats a good start, I think.

Diana of Dewberry Hill

 

I guess my question was more complicated than I thought. Since know

one here has any answers or suggestions for me, does anyone know of

another group or message board with long term raw foodists who might

be able to help? Thank You

 

Here was my previous question:

 

> What can i do if my body keeps rejecting most fruits, veggies, and

> nuts? The only thing i've eaten for years are meat starches and

loads

> of sugar. I can eat some acidic or sweet fruits like oranges and

> pineapples or cooked starchy veggies like corn and potatos, but

> everything else makes my body regurgiate even more so when when the

> foods are raw and in their natural state. There is no way i can be

a

> raw vegan if this keeps happening. Does anyone have answers for me?

I

> tried eating a canteloupe the other day and the moment I swallowed

it

> I threw up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Diana, thanks for helping me. Yesterday I emailed a few

natropathic doctors and many of them suggested the same. Most advised

I go on a juice fast to cleanse first, try more of a cooked vegan

diet, and then transition to raw foods. Of course they will need to

see me in person to be sure. I'm hoping to find a solution that I can

work with on my own before spending money to see more professionals.

I will give all of this a try and if it doesn't work I plan to go see

a ND. According to western doctors, other than being lactose

intolerant they don't see anything. I've had blood, urine, and all

type of other tests. ]

[Guest guest]

Hi, I've had a full checkup and physically there doesn't seem to be

anything wrong with me except the obesity and lactose intolerance.

And the reason I'm obese is because I've eaten the wrong foods for

years, and lactose intolerance is not really a big deal because I

don't plan to eat dairy anyway.

[Guest guest]

Diana you're also right about traditional doctors. They have offered

me meds for the skin rashes and other physical symptoms, anti

depressents because of the lack of energy(that even i know is because

of poor diet and I don't have a degree), and meds to increase my

energy(speed), but they are not willing or able to tell me why these

symptoms are here in the first place. One doctor even had the nerve

to ask me if I was sure I threw up. As if I imagined bending over the

toilet and throwing up. He made me so mad I just walked out and left

him there looking silly.

[Guest guest]

rawfood , Diana of Dewberry Hill

<cozad76078> wrote:

> Here is what I believe is the answer to your question: since you had

such a poor diet for so long, your body is not well. And it is not

used to good food. My suggestion is to steam your vegetables (eat

little to no meat), and gradually introduce raw vegetables and fruits

to your diet to eventually make a total switch to raw. Be sure to

drink lots of pure water and herb teas between meals. Also try mixing

vegetable and fruit juices in with some pure water. Be sure that you

juice these fresh. Then eventually you can drink them straight from

the juicer as your body adjusts. Fresh juices are powerful and I'm

guessing your body needs them diluted at first. Get a juicing book. If

you go to a doctor they will just try to give you drugs that will mask

your problems not cure them. Let your body adjust naturally. Aloe vera

juice is very soothing to the digestive system and you can drink it

undiluted. Start with a little at a time. It will heal and soothe your

tissues.

> Thats a good start, I think.

> Diana of Dewberry Hill

 

 

I would recommend to him to go to the doctor to make sure there isn't

something really wrong, not to just get drugged. You know, like, get

some blood tests done. I think dropping all meat immediately may also

be drastic. He may need to ease into eating more cooked vegetables.

[Guest guest]

First of all, cantelope is very hard to digest and alot of people

have mild to severe allergies to melons. You are not crazy that it

made you throw up. Have you tried avocado? That is really healing on

your belly. Bananas, are also healing. Have you tried lightly

steaming vegies, baking squashes and sweet potatoes?

 

I am slightly allergic to kiwis, which sucks because I love them to

death!

 

I would start by eliminating all dairy and bread and whaet

products(as well as animal) from your diet. By yourself some good

quality flax oil (organic if possible) and/or extra pressed olive

oil. Avoid white potatoes and corn, they have almost no nutrional

value. If you want starch, sweet potaties and yams are great! Bake

them and when they come out use flax oil instead of butter!

 

How are you with salad? Just lettuce (do not eat iceburg!

Especially non organic) and lemon and flax oil?

 

Apples, can you eat them? How about dates? Have you tried soaking

nuts or seeds(sunflower or pumpkin) over night, draining the water

and then blending the nuts up? That is a simple nut cheese, it is

good to add some celery and herbs for flavor as well. It might not

be as hard on your belly as straight nuts.

 

What about dates or mangoes, can you eat those? Sorry about all the

questions but I have some ideas if you can email me back I'd love to

give you some insight!!

 

mikaela

 

 

I

> > tried eating a canteloupe the other day and the moment I

swallowed

> it

> > I threw up.

[Guest guest]

http://health.nutrition-for-life/

 

The above group has a doctor as the owner that probally could answer your

questions

Nicholas

 

quinsetta22 <no_reply > wrote:

 

 

I guess my question was more complicated than I thought. Since know

one here has any answers or suggestions for me, does anyone know of

another group or message board with long term raw foodists who might

be able to help? Thank You

 

Here was my previous question:

 

> What can i do if my body keeps rejecting most fruits, veggies, and

> nuts? The only thing i've eaten for years are meat starches and

loads

> of sugar. I can eat some acidic or sweet fruits like oranges and

> pineapples or cooked starchy veggies like corn and potatos, but

> everything else makes my body regurgiate even more so when when the

> foods are raw and in their natural state. There is no way i can be

a

> raw vegan if this keeps happening. Does anyone have answers for me?

I

> tried eating a canteloupe the other day and the moment I swallowed

it

> I threw up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Vitiam d helps to loss weight. Read this article at this web site

http://www.healself.org/sun.html

 

 

quinsetta22 <no_reply > wrote:

 

 

Hi, I've had a full checkup and physically there doesn't seem to be

anything wrong with me except the obesity and lactose intolerance.

And the reason I'm obese is because I've eaten the wrong foods for

years, and lactose intolerance is not really a big deal because I

don't plan to eat dairy anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Kohlrabi I responded to your previous message concerning medical

testing. I've seen many doctors, taken many blood tests, even mri's.

The traditional doctors don't see anything wrong with me except for

obesity and lactose intolerance. I don't have high blood pressure,

diabetes, thyroid problems, ect ect. I believe the answer I'm looking

for can not be found from traditional doctors who are only trained to

treat symptoms. Had I listened to them in the past I would be on six

different medications now.

 

 

rawfood , " kohlrabi_croce "

<kohlrabi_croce> wrote:

> I would recommend to him to go to the doctor to make sure there

isn't

> something really wrong, not to just get drugged. You know, like,

get

> some blood tests done. I think dropping all meat immediately may

also

> be drastic. He may need to ease into eating more cooked vegetables.

[Guest guest]

Hi John, I spoke with a natropathic doctor today via phone, and two

others by email, and all three have stated the same. The problem may

very well be that I am just moving to fast and need to start slowly

or with a juice fast or similar cleanse. I will make some adjustments

since it doesn't seem like I can make the complete change over

night.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Nicolas. I will visit the site tonight.

[Guest guest]

> First of all, cantelope is very hard to digest and alot of people

> have mild to severe allergies to melons. You are not crazy that it

> made you throw up. Have you tried avocado? That is really healing

on your belly. Bananas, are also healing. Have you tried lightly

> steaming vegies, baking squashes and sweet potatoes?

 

Hi Mikaelashoney. Thank you for the assurance. I will definitely

reserve melons for future use. Do you know what makes them so hard to

digest? I have two avocados in the fridge but have not tried them

yet, still trying to decide how to use it in a recipe. I did eat a

small bowl of steamed broccoli yesterday and a banana. Both made me

want to throw up slightly but I managed to keep them down by eating a

small bit of peppermint afterwards. I will try the squash and sweet

potatos since it looks like I'll have to go cooked vegan before 100%

raw vegan.

 

>

> I am slightly allergic to kiwis, which sucks because I love them

to death! I would start by eliminating all dairy and bread and whaet

> products(as well as animal) from your diet. By yourself some good

> quality flax oil (organic if possible) and/or extra pressed olive

> oil. Avoid white potatoes and corn, they have almost no nutrional

> value. If you want starch, sweet potaties and yams are great! Bake

> them and when they come out use flax oil instead of butter!

 

Thanks for these suggestions. I plan to go shopping again this

weekend and I'll give them all a try. I think the kiwi's are not even

that expensive which is a good thing.

 

>

> How are you with salad? Just lettuce (do not eat iceburg!

> Especially non organic) and lemon and flax oil?

 

If I eat lettuce alone(i bought romaine) it makes me throw up. But if

I pour a little dressing over it I can stomach it somewhat better,

still difficult to keep down, but better. :)I haven't tried the lemon

and flax yet.

 

>

> Apples, can you eat them? How about dates? Have you tried soaking

> nuts or seeds(sunflower or pumpkin) over night, draining the water

> and then blending the nuts up? That is a simple nut cheese, it is

> good to add some celery and herbs for flavor as well. It might not

> be as hard on your belly as straight nuts.

 

The green apples agree with my tummy better than the red. I'm afraid

to try the dates because I've heard they're sweet and I have trouble

controlling my sugar intake. Don't won't to go into a binge. Do I

soak the nuts/seeds in the fridge or can I leave the out on the

counter top? Also, how can I tell when seeds/nuts are raw or cooked.

The local grocery store keeps them all in a huge barrel but it

doesn't tell if they raw or not.

 

>

> What about dates or mangoes, can you eat those? Sorry about all

the

> questions but I have some ideas if you can email me back I'd love

to

> give you some insight!!

 

I have a mango in the fridge but haven't tried it yet. I went out

last week and bought tons of fruits and veggies but I'm starving

because very few items stay in my stomach. I'll find a simple recipe

for the mango also and give that a try. Thanks again Mikaelashoney

[Guest guest]

Remember doctors can only give you a diagnosis. If they prescribe expensive

drugs for you to take, then that is another poison your body will need to

detoxify from. A natural doctor will only tell you natural things to do. You can

save a bundle and just eat right and use herbs and get fresh air and exercise.

Most people believe in the doctors...but I believe that God heals through

natural means and faith is a great healer, too. So I stand by the transitioning

into raw foods for you, as I suggested. I don't always know what's ailing me,

but if I do natural things I'm always healed. Doctors go out of business with me

because I'd rather save the money I'd spend on them and spend it on good foods

instead. Some fasting, some juicing, lots of organic fresh fruits, veggies,

soaked/sprouted seeds, nuts and good virgin oils...pure water...herbal teas. Big

smile, help others, you WILL get well. If what I say rings true,

fine...otherwise, follow doctors, you may pay them to tell you the same

thing.

Hugs,

Diana of Dewberry Hill (after all I'm still " green " , only two weeks all raw, but

really got the hang of it! and love fitting into my old jeans again!)

 

" quinsetta22 " , you said:

Hi Diana, thanks for helping me. Yesterday I emailed a few

natropathic doctors and many of them suggested the same. Most advised

I go on a juice fast to cleanse first, try more of a cooked vegan

diet, and then transition to raw foods. Of course they will need to

see me in person to be sure. I'm hoping to find a solution that I can

work with on my own before spending money to see more professionals.

I will give all of this a try and if it doesn't work I plan to go see

a ND. According to western doctors, other than being lactose

intolerant they don't see anything. I've had blood, urine, and all

type of other tests. ]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Ya know, IMHO...most docs are so arrogant (because people trust them as

gods)...that the guy you walked out on probably thought YOU were the silly one.

I have had docs have me in tears telling me I was imagining things. I've had to

go to dentists and docs for root canals and broken body parts...and still, I got

a weak immune system from all their drugs. There is a place for doctors and that

is for broken body parts that need to be set or something similar. Otherwise

it's a vicious circle created for your dependence on them and the drugs they

push. Now, I've cured tooth aches with drops of oregano oil. Many uses for that

oil. But that's just one example. I wild craft the herbs on my mountain and use

pure oils from the worlds best, have eaten well and juiced for years...but have

been lazy about beginning the raw food diet. Now I wonder why I waited so long.

I just have to figure out what to do with all these nice exotic grains I have in

my cupboard, sprout them...I guess. Before you

know it, you will be teaching others from you own get well story. Every one has

to have a get well story. Be encouraged that you are on the right track. Look to

the good doctors like Dr. Norman Walker, an avid raw food/juice person who died

peacefully in his sleep at many years past one hundred.

 

He wrote in his book, Raw Vegetable Juices, that food was the cause of all

health problems, and food was also the cure http://www.rawfood.com/walker.html

 

Blessings, Diana of Dewberry Hill

 

Diana you're also right about traditional doctors. They have offered

me meds for the skin rashes and other physical symptoms, anti

depressents because of the lack of energy(that even i know is because

of poor diet and I don't have a degree), and meds to increase my

energy(speed), but they are not willing or able to tell me why these

symptoms are here in the first place. One doctor even had the nerve

to ask me if I was sure I threw up. As if I imagined bending over the

toilet and throwing up. He made me so mad I just walked out and left

him there looking silly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

rawfood , quinsetta22 <no_reply> wrote:

>

>

> Kohlrabi I responded to your previous message concerning medical

> testing. I've seen many doctors, taken many blood tests, even mri's.

> The traditional doctors don't see anything wrong with me except for

> obesity and lactose intolerance. I don't have high blood pressure,

> diabetes, thyroid problems, ect ect. I believe the answer I'm looking

> for can not be found from traditional doctors who are only trained to

> treat symptoms. Had I listened to them in the past I would be on six

> different medications now.

 

Ok, it's good you were able to rule out any serious health problems

by having tests done. If any of those doctors you went to were trying

to put you on drugs for being overweight, I cannot think they were

very good doctors, unless they were the type that specialize in

helping people lose weight, and even then I think those types of

doctors are ethically questionable. Obviously they would not be

putting you on drugs for anything else, since they did not find

anything else wrong with you.

 

I am overweight myself, and hope to get in better shape by eating raw.

The last time my doctor talked to me about it, he said the usual: eat

right, exercise, and added he thought I should drink a whole lot of

water, only water, because of new research that has come out about

that. He did not try to put me on any drugs.

 

Good luck to both of us on making the transition to raw .

 

tracy

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " kohlrabi_croce "

<kohlrabi_croce> wrote:

> Ok, it's good you were able to rule out any serious health problems

> by having tests done. If any of those doctors you went to were

trying to put you on drugs for being overweight, I cannot think they

were very good doctors, unless they were the type that specialize in

> helping people lose weight, and even then I think those types of

> doctors are ethically questionable. Obviously they would not be

> putting you on drugs for anything else, since they did not find

> anything else wrong with you.

 

Hi Tracy, A few years ago I had unexplainable hormonal problems with

my period, and blood tests showed problems with my thyroid, and a few

other hormones. My joints hurt, I was fatigued, depression, anxious,

had terrible dandruff, skin discoloration, migraine headaches,

earaches, excess mucus in my eyes and sinues, constipation(where I

couldn't use the bathroom for days or as long as two weeks),

recurrent yeast infections, and tons of other stuff that " some "

people experience when their health begins to deteriorate. All of

these symptoms normalized or decreased after eliminating red meat,

dairy, caffeine, sodas, and cutting back on sugar(though I still ate

a lot). The only thing I did was eliminate some bad items, I didn't

add any good foods. That is what I'm attempting to do now with raw

foods.

 

It has been a couple of years since the above changes ocurred and

decreased and after monitoring these systems and testing me for the

past few years to make sure the hormonal problems didn't return the

doctors feel confident in saying they are gone(though they also say

they can't explain why especially with the thyroid) that is why NOW

the doctors say they don't see anything seriously wrong with me. I

didn't go in to detail about all of this in my previous message you

responded to because it isn't an issue now and I was trying to be

brief. Guess that didn't work. (smiling)I personally think

eliminating the bad foods decreased stress on my body which returned

my hormones to normal. That is the only thing I did differently.

 

Had I listened to doctors I would have been on meds to treat all the

above symptoms. My concern now is how to start adding healthy foods

now that I have eliminated so many of the bad one's. I still have

obesity, low energy(though not fatigue like before, skin rashes

(though not overall skin darkening, bad breath, weak muscles(but no

painful joints like before) and a few other complaints that I'm

confident stem from poor nutrition and are not worth going to doctors

who will only prescribe meds to make matters worse.

 

Thank you for the well wishes, the same to you in return. I have no

doubt we will both see improved health and vitality in the near

future.

[Guest guest]

Dear Quinsetta,

Sounds like you may want to read:

 

I Was Poisoned By My Body by Gloria Gilbere

 

Also, by Breda Watson

 

Gut Solutions: Natural Solutions to your Digestive Problems and she also wrote

 

Renew Your Life

 

You can get them all used on www.amazon.com

 

From my similar experience (minus the throwing up) of having no digestion, I

have done very well with:

 

1. Low Sugar Juices (green juice, sometimes with minimal carrott in them to

make them palatable

 

2. No sugar, bread

 

3. Avocadoes, mashed are very soothing

 

4. Wheatgrass with a carrott chaser (I started with 1/2 shot and then increased

to up to 8oz per day)

 

5. No nuts or oil

 

6. Completely pulverized foods (raw soups minus the oil, " gentle foods "

 

7. Cooked/Steamed Veges for transition, such as pureed sweet potatoes, vege

soup/broth. Raw veges, if not completely pulverized are hard to digest if not

manually broken down smaller.

 

What I found was that I had to really mash/juice/grind things up, in order for

me to get any nutrition, and for it to not irritate my stomach/gut. My body

really wanted the wheatgrass and responded very nicely to it.

 

Sometimes, I found, that it's not what you omit from your diet, but what you

add.

 

I cannot do fruit or fruit juice. I can't even do bananas. But I will try to

reintroduce these, mono-style, after I do a long spell of the wheatgrass as a

healer.

 

Anyway, I had to deal with the fact that for whatever reason, I could not

karmically eat what others eat, but the diet of an old man, or a baby. But it's

working, and now I can be raw-er now that i'm healing.

 

Also, doctors have told me nothing helpful. So you are not alone, but the books

above were very helpful.

 

regards,

Michele

 

quinsetta22 <no_reply > wrote:

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> Hi Mikaelashoney. Thank you for the assurance. I will definitely

> reserve melons for future use. Do you know what makes them so hard

to

> digest?

 

**** Alot of people have allergies to them.

 

 

 

I have two avocados in the fridge but have not tried them

> yet, still trying to decide how to use it in a recipe.

 

***Avocadoes need no recipe! That is the beauty of them! Just make

sure that the outside is slightly soft and the inside is bright

green. If there are any brown spots on the insides don't eat it

becuase it will make the rest of the avo taste bad. Mash it up with

a little sea salt and lemon juice. Eat it straight with a spoon and

nothing on it. My favorite salad right now is diced avocadoes, diced

tomatoes and diced onions covered in fresh juice of one lemon!! That

might be to hard on your belly. i would just go with the avacado cut

in half and enjoy! the same goes for mango. Eat it soft but no brown

spots under the skin. Eat it without a recipe...just a1la carte!

the best way possible!

 

I did eat a

> small bowl of steamed broccoli yesterday and a banana. Both made

me

> want to throw up slightly but I managed to keep them down by

eating a

> small bit of peppermint afterwards. I will try the squash and

sweet

> potatos since it looks like I'll have to go cooked vegan before

100%

 

 

*** Good for you. Now just keep steaming; carrots, chard, squashes,

zuccini. The baked potatoes sound really good to me right now!!

 

 

 

 

>

Do I

> soak the nuts/seeds in the fridge or can I leave the out on the

> counter top? Also, how can I tell when seeds/nuts are raw or

cooked.

> The local grocery store keeps them all in a huge barrel but it

> doesn't tell if they raw or not.

 

 

 

****Soak them on the counter overnight in a blender. Then drain the

water, rinse them off, throw them back in the blender then pulse,

add a little water if needed and celery and fresh herbs. This is

great made ito a " roll " with a big lettuce leef used as what you

rolla spoonful in. Hope this helps!!

 

mikaela